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All ships with a spare mid - why not ECM?
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Dyaven
#1 - 2012-01-11 20:19:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyaven
Even completely without bonuses, it seems silly to not fit one. A ~15% chance to jam every 20 seconds seems more than worth it to me, since it essentially equates to a 15% chance to instantly win a fight. (Solo to small gang assumed) If you can't win a 1v1 with 20 free seconds to shoot without getting shot back, your doing it wrong.

Ships I see no reason not to slap an ECM on:

Vexor
Myrmidon
Armor Hurricane
Brutix
Harbinger
Drake
etc., etc. - Any armor tanked ship with 4+ mids or high tracking/non tracking-dependent ship with 3 mids, any shield ship with 5+ mids

/shrug
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2012-01-11 20:51:55 UTC
Who needs tackle and tank Alex, for 200?

How did you Veterans start?
Dyaven
#3 - 2012-01-11 21:06:29 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Who needs tackle and tank Alex, for 200?


Quote:

(needs 4% PG implant)

[Myrmidon, Armordon]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5


Quote:


[Hurricane, Hurricane]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Biced
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-11 21:09:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Biced
I think you forgot a C in the tittle.
it should say all ships with a spare mid why not eccm =p

also no such thing as a spare mid slot on any ship.
General Sadistis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-01-11 21:31:50 UTC
Why not Zoidberg?Big smile

also no... no such thing as a spare mid
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#6 - 2012-01-12 00:36:38 UTC
Why bother with ecm mods when a flight of light ecm drones will seemingly jam anything? What?

thhief ghabmoef
doombreed52
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-01-12 04:21:41 UTC
good thing i come with smartbombs also just no have you seen the amarr AF 1 mid. it needs more then 2 but whatever
Dyaven
#8 - 2012-01-12 04:36:14 UTC
doombreed52 wrote:
good thing i come with smartbombs also just no have you seen the amarr AF 1 mid. it needs more then 2 but whatever


What does that have to do with anything?
Khrage
#9 - 2012-01-12 05:10:17 UTC
doombreed52 wrote:
good thing i come with smartbombs also just no have you seen the amarr AF 1 mid. it needs more then 2 but whatever


cry some more
vorneus
Hub2
#10 - 2012-01-12 13:00:24 UTC
Khrage wrote:
doombreed52 wrote:
good thing i come with smartbombs also just no have you seen the amarr AF 1 mid. it needs more then 2 but whatever


cry some more


This.

Also, it's getting another mid in the next patch.

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#11 - 2012-01-12 13:52:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Wacktopia
- ECM takes massive CPU to fit. Generally you want/have to use this CPU elsewhere than "spare"
- ECM works better in a do-or-die setup.
- In EVE it is generally better to do one or two things very well instead of being jack of all trades.

Doesn't mean you can't give it a whirl though.

*** Experimental and Untested Fit Alert ***

[Drake, ECM]

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-12 13:56:45 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:

[Drake, ECM]

I expected a hilarious armour fit and left disappointed.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-12 14:02:33 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Why bother with ecm mods when a flight of light ecm drones will seemingly jam anything? What?

few days ago i engaged standard -AAA- fleet Maelstrom with my pvp drake. 5 ECM hornets didn't jam him at all..... Not even 1 cycle.... Chance based....

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#14 - 2012-01-12 14:05:09 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Wacktopia wrote:

[Drake, ECM]

I expected a hilarious armour fit and left disappointed.


;) I'll admit to the lol-fit anyway but you gotta try this stuff or there's never any innovation.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Liam Mirren
#15 - 2012-01-12 14:16:19 UTC
ECM mods are useless on non-bonused ships, gone are the days of the Dominix with the Multispec of Doom. PVP fit ships don't have a "spare slot" for ECM as the jamming chance is so low you're much better off with something else. Only if used in massive blobs can it be sortof useful and even then it's more a case of not having any better options.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-01-12 17:33:20 UTC
its a good idea if you hate ECM drones, because they make you less of a man, you can use a multi ecm and fly it like its 2005, as long as you dont mind getting one working jam in a 5 minute fight of course :)

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Brotha Umad
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-01-12 17:45:44 UTC
Why don't I fit the weak multifreq jammers on unbonnused ships ?

Because it sucks, that's why.

The only remotely good use I've seen out of specialized ships was in a 50 men fleet where everyone had one or two racial jammers. It did not make a great difference over using ECM drones however.