EVE General Discussion

CCP has no interest at having you not spend 80+ euros on their game.

Also, if you played for 3 years you should know how they deal with new features (see FW, PI...): big fuss, Fanfest shows with huge effects that leave to intend thay will change the gaming world, then they get delivered half done and let to rot.

Finally, thank you Guard
Answer as expected
it seems hard for CCP to make decisions ,about their own product.
Do i like the answer ? no of course not,but it seems we have to deal with this.

Nah. I just think people are going to stop giving a s**t about this game and find something else to play.

Impossible, because the door won't open for the next 2 years. Ha!

This thread was never really about showing support it was about demanding immediate answers from CCP.. The thread title was even changed by the OP recently when it was pointed out repeatedly that CCP already answered the question. The minute this thread was posted in GD, it was fair game for everybody.

Had you read any of my earlier posts you would know I am not anti-WIS but I am definitely against pro-WIS players whining repeatedly for answers when they have already been provided. If anything, I have tried to get you to post in the appropriate forum areas where you would not get trolled.

Sometimes someone has to be the messenger when common sense is being clouded by hysteria.

CCP promises a lot of stuff. Sometimes they make good on their promises, sometimes they don't because they often try to do things that are not possible within a time-frame that meets general player expectations. If you have been playing for more than a couple of years, you probably already knew this.

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn´t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

thank you Guard

working on stuff that is already there,can,t hurt the important FISpart of this game

That's completely up to CCP and you know it. It also depends on what you are posting. Honey catches more flies then vinegar obviously. Crying and stamping your feet and making threats as a mob would discourage anyone in authority from trying to make appeasement. This applies to both sides of this issue.



When you want to suggest features with the intention of CCP seeing and possibly acting on them, that's exactly why they setup a Feature and Ideas forum area so they don't have to try to pick though posts sprinkled through various threads. When you want to complain about being ignored by CCP or similar, and you don't want to get trolled/flamed and etc, it's best if you take that to the CSM in the forum specifically setup for that purpose. While you might think the CSM is pointless or that they have a differing agenda than you, if you don't use the avenues CCP provides for player feedback and representation, you are just derailing the process and leaving everything up to the CSM without them hearing and/or addressing your feedback.

ii like honey




didn,t answer my question

WiS so far was a good tech framework.

It completely lacked gameplay. There was no reason for the captain's closet to exist in gameplay terms.

If you never get to add gameplay to it (and no, playing dress-up with microtransaction clothes is not "gameplay"), it will all be just another COSMOS. Heck, it will be worse than that. At least COSMOS has the functionality of allowing you to gain some standings and some unique junk mods while doing some unique missions.

I fully agree putting the main weight of :effort: behind spaceships because that's where EVE gameplay lies, but it would be terrible waste of all this current WiS code and assets if it is never put to use in gameplay.

Gameplay.

Look it up. Reason for people to walk around in a station. It obviously can't be absolutely mandatory, but you have already expanded EVE sideways with things like PI or Rigs/Salvage - additional bits of gameplay that expand what players can do in the game to gain ISK or items or other assets.

WiS needs something that would give it a reason to exist. I don't say I have the answers or ideas what that may be, but I would imagine you had some ideas before you started building this complex character modeling and rendering code, no?