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A bumper ganking Corp

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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#61 - 2016-03-22 18:44:29 UTC
I love the this idea, the bumpers often believe they are rather safe.

and not all freighters are afk on ap, I have seen people warp point to point just to get caught on the warp out by the bumper

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Imperator Kane
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2016-03-24 10:02:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Imperator Kane
If you are looking at starting a corp for these type of things you need to be prepared to be under constant wardecs as well. AG corp or people in AG in general (bar a few exceptions) do not do well under those circumstances where they cannot rely on concord to help kill their targets.

Either way I support the underdogs so once this is underway you can count on my support when you are wardecced. In my rebirth I would like to change my focus and support the underdogs more. :) While still reserve the right to teach uppity people on the forums a lesson or two. This includes people talking random crap and asking for nerfs on the forums. :)

Actually:

I will state my support for AG. I will not deal with mouth breathers which there are many off in AG. But I will support those that are actively trying to make a difference and provide content for both sides of the crowds.

Cannibal Kane was my Test Character.

Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#63 - 2016-03-24 10:16:35 UTC
Welcome Back, Kane. NIce to see you standing up for underdogs for once. Have +1 for that.
Imperator Kane
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2016-03-24 10:27:46 UTC
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Welcome Back, Kane. NIce to see you standing up for underdogs for once. Have +1 for that.


Thanks, but remember there are always those considered to be underdogs that needs a slap around now an again just to make sure they get back into reality.

Cannibal Kane was my Test Character.

xkaty pearcex
Snack Attack
#65 - 2016-03-24 11:23:16 UTC
Imperator Kane wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Welcome Back, Kane. NIce to see you standing up for underdogs for once. Have +1 for that.


Thanks, but remember there are always those considered to be underdogs that needs a slap around now an again just to make sure they get back into reality.


Someone's coming for you. He doesn't have your amount of fanboys because he's killed too many, but he's better than you. Get ready for some red on your kb. This is gonna be fun to watch.

As for you fanboys...lol.
Imperator Kane
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2016-03-24 11:29:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Imperator Kane
xkaty pearcex wrote:
Imperator Kane wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Welcome Back, Kane. NIce to see you standing up for underdogs for once. Have +1 for that.


Thanks, but remember there are always those considered to be underdogs that needs a slap around now an again just to make sure they get back into reality.


Someone's coming for you. He doesn't have your amount of fanboys because he's killed too many, but he's better than you. Get ready for some red on your kb. This is gonna be fun to watch.

As for you fanboys...lol.


That is ok. If the distance between him and me is further than the Amarr undock I really do not need to worry because I am seldom sitting in a HUB. Yes I might not have as many kills as he does but then again I actaully enjoy the hunt more than waiting for people at a hub. I also do not have as many alts as he does who can boost and RR him.

Cannibal Kane was my Test Character.

Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#67 - 2016-03-24 12:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ro Fenrios
xkaty pearcex wrote:
Imperator Kane wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Welcome Back, Kane. NIce to see you standing up for underdogs for once. Have +1 for that.


Thanks, but remember there are always those considered to be underdogs that needs a slap around now an again just to make sure they get back into reality.


Someone's coming for you. He doesn't have your amount of fanboys because he's killed too many, but he's better than you. Get ready for some red on your kb. This is gonna be fun to watch.

As for you fanboys...lol.



Must be hard for you not being able to post as holey. We might even forgot about him if he / you wont run to every thread reminding us about yourself.

As for Kane. When he was last active, I was mostly care bear and my view of this game was drastically different from what it is now. I even considered him to be the 'bad guy' and I suppose in a way he is. I am happy to see that he wants to stand up for the little guy.

I know there are plenty of players who are beyond help or don't even deserve Kane aiding them. However, some of those underdogs can become something greater with someone just giving them little push to get started..

Rabble inc. Is good example of this. Newbros almost every one of them, with few vets leading them forward
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2016-03-24 21:22:42 UTC
Imperator Kane wrote:
If you are looking at starting a corp for these type of things you need to be prepared to be under constant wardecs as well. AG corp or people in AG in general (bar a few exceptions) do not do well under those circumstances where they cannot rely on concord to help kill their targets.

Either way I support the underdogs so once this is underway you can count on my support when you are wardecced. In my rebirth I would like to change my focus and support the underdogs more. :) While still reserve the right to teach uppity people on the forums a lesson or two. This includes people talking random crap and asking for nerfs on the forums. :)

Actually:

I will state my support for AG. I will not deal with mouth breathers which there are many off in AG. But I will support those that are actively trying to make a difference and provide content for both sides of the crowds.



Hi Kane nice to see you around

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2016-03-24 21:44:27 UTC
Agondray wrote:
I love the this idea, the bumpers often believe they are rather safe.

and not all freighters are afk on ap, I have seen people warp point to point just to get caught on the warp out by the bumper


your more than welcome to help but as kane pointed out it will be a hard life, some are making alts as i am myself , its not just going to be bumper ganking because if you do that all the time they just tank more, so i see mixing it up with , ecm burst attacks , gank known scouts, any new ideas more than welcome , main thing try and have a bit of fun and stopping code can be fun

I say code but any gankers and the likes can be targets, been testing stuff out and had 2 very good freighter saves, last week, one a jump freighter packed to the gunnels with items, pilot was very happy with our work. Tried to gank a ganker scout that was a total fail , timing went to pot i think,

So if you want to take part join Rebel Wilson Fan Club please put in the eve time your most on, and what ships you can fly

we also need ships and fitting if anyone wants to help with that , just so we can cut out the time to re-ship, which would cut down the time we misbehave Big smile


A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Sere O'Asis
Desert Oasis Investigations
#70 - 2016-03-24 23:53:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sere O'Asis
Imperator Kane wrote:
If you are looking at starting a corp for these type of things you need to be prepared to be under constant wardecs as well. AG corp or people in AG in general (bar a few exceptions) do not do well under those circumstances where they cannot rely on concord to help kill their targets.

Either way I support the underdogs so once this is underway you can count on my support when you are wardecced. In my rebirth I would like to change my focus and support the underdogs more. :) While still reserve the right to teach uppity people on the forums a lesson or two. This includes people talking random crap and asking for nerfs on the forums. :)

Actually:

I will state my support for AG. I will not deal with mouth breathers which there are many off in AG. But I will support those that are actively trying to make a difference and provide content for both sides of the crowds.



What many may not know is that Kane always supported newbies, underdogs and others. I will be playing three years this coming May, and it is because of the advice and time he gave me in game.

Thank you Kane,
Sere
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#71 - 2016-03-25 08:03:33 UTC
Imperator Kane wrote:
I will state my support for AG. I will not deal with mouth breathers which there are many off in AG. But I will support those that are actively trying to make a difference and provide content for both sides of the crowds.

I am curious how this will play out. There are a lot of paranoid and toxic people in AG, so this will be interesting. Make sure to screenshot everything interesting Big smile. Good luck with your reboot, it is great that you are back!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#72 - 2016-03-25 08:34:17 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Imperator Kane wrote:
I will state my support for AG. I will not deal with mouth breathers which there are many off in AG. But I will support those that are actively trying to make a difference and provide content for both sides of the crowds.

I am curious how this will play out. There are a lot of paranoid and toxic people in AG, so this will be interesting. Make sure to screenshot everything interesting Big smile. Good luck with your reboot, it is great that you are back!




Excluding the SA crowd who comes into the AG channel pretending to be a freshly ganked butthurt noob trying to stir people up and getting banned in short order, the AG channels are actually pretty quiet.

When you guys go into the channel flinging the same old talking points and tropes left and right, it becomes obvious after 10 minutes. The SA handlers need to randomize things a bit, or become more creative.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#73 - 2016-03-26 08:40:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
There are around 29 gankers in Uedama.

They are most of the time using cheap Catalyst with Tech 1 settings in Fleet Warp:

Fitting on guns:
Light Neutron Blasters I, some (2 or three of them) Light Neutron Blaster T2. Void S
or
8x Light Neutron Blasters / Caldari Antimatter S

Mid:
F90 Combat Sensor Booster 2x
(or 1x Warp Scrambler)

Low:
2x Magnetic Feld Stab T1/ T2

Rigs:
Smal Processor Overclocking Unit T1
Small Hyprid Burst Aerator T1

Possible other ships: Brutix (also Talos and sometimes Vexor/ Thorax), Trasher(Art)/ Ore belts.

Corps mostly all in alliance CODE.
Corps:
Chugunium PODS (3 Members)
The Conference Elite (159 Members, mostly dead ones)
Shooting Blues Everyday (51 Members) <- they are mostly hauling loot and ransom
Monkey Attack Squad (160 Members, Leftover from Goonswarm Fed mostly dead)
Big Diggers (91 members, mostly dead)
The New Order Gamis Affiliat (10 Members)
Wildly Inapproriate (979 Members most dead - Goonswarm leftovers)
New Order Logistics (201 mostly dead)
Zima Corp (696 Members mostly dead)

They have scouts also (of course), mostly named such as Alt Proxy, Alt 00, Alt something...

Players names so far:
HABEPHO
lyalanon
Zula Terra (Corp Thief as of C&P)
GR13Fy
Itake Urcargo (Hauler)
Nikonor Drishenko (Possible alt Bratok Srayona)
TheInternet TweepsOnline T
Dredd Simon
Krominal
Aaaarrgg (alt Aaaarrgg-its a-Smurf (NPC), A-STONED SMURF Aaaargg, OMG its-CODE Aaaarrgg and some more of this brilliant name (look it up at Char search)
Assassn Gallic
Empire Raider
Keraina Talie-Kuo
SynthiaGreey
Efrosyni Dora
Rogral
Georgia Agape
Solar Gleam
AndroGon Navy
Irritainment
Kibbera
Kiki Sotiria
PostOp Transexual
Get Well Soon
Konstantina Demi
Charlotte Lowell
Fiddly Pop
Melina Timothea
Pod-Goo RepoWoman
Freighter Soprano, Hauler (NPC, often seen in Jita/ Caldari Navy Assembly Plant)
Wolf Soprano (NPC), alt Wolf ' s Soprano (NPC)
Elena Sabezan (NPC Bumper on gates, mostly Machariel)

Other pilots (double posts possible):
Bing Bangboom
Talon Calais
Zakurell0 Linda (Zero at the end of name, not Oh!)
Booka Shade
Mildron Klinker
Spine Ripper (Possible alt yodayblack)
Joel Kusion
Jake Kusion
Justin Kusion
Jeremiah Kusion
Knackered Old Goat
Perlo Tissant
Lawrence Lawton
Lament von Gankheim
Booka Shade
Winnie Po0h
Zopiclone
Dom Desouza
sun-tzu rollard

and for sure a hand full more and alts. Other then that some locals who had to pay ransom are also present and supporting them, otherwise they would pee in their pants if they dont.

Intel we have says about 19 locals or people rushing through the system payed the ransom of 10 mill, valid for one year. (Note to readers: You NEVER pay ransom to gankers. Never!)

Ransom payed (and those players could be scouts too):

The Specter
Maroon Tough
Kurg Aari
Edier Creire-Geng
Khanid Beauty
Manjo Jenkins
Celes Tialn
Mad Tao
Kyr Jacelern
Aynamka Overdose
Pandorath
Cylon 1
Mush Roum
Dr Zhivago
SwiftxFate Codie
Virm Pasuul
Ankh1
Deadmankilling
Nameless Assailant


Corp cash: About 225 Mill ISK +/-

Most of the gankers are noobs/alts or not very old. With locator service it is for sure possible to locate them if not in system.

It is possible they use Multiboxer for ganking. Proof of that missing but possible by same lastname alts/ logged in same time.

They have bumpers (mostly Machariel) belonging to NPC corps and their freighter (Fenrir) Alts/haulers are also NPC corps. They mostly dock up in "Caldari Steel Warehous" station in Uedama. There are some sticks in the system and close by systems as well.

If you warp to station/ gates/ planets and so on they can have cargo containers up 100km/ 70km and so on at warp point, mostly to get you out of cloak if you are.

They mostly camp/ duck sit Caldari Steel Warehouse, mainly gate Sivala and Juunigaishi from both sides but mostly within 0.5

Method: Warp in fleet with more as 25-30 Caracals, dedstroy target, get concorded and warp up to Caldari Steel Warehouse again. Rinse and repeat.

How they abuse Concord:

They pull Concord away from victims about 150km. In this way it is possilbe to do multiple raids on same or close by targets. They mostly then dock in their pods and undock again with aggression timer in a Rookie Ship to move Concord further away or even let Concord spawn in a neighbor system. The trick is rock old and I would almost say this qualifies using an exploit while doing that. So always try to stay close to Concord ships while being attacked or bumped.

They have bookmarks on stations to get there quicker and also put bookmarks on targets to let the fleet warp in quicker. So look for spots they often warp in/out.

In belts/ ice fields they have scouts/ cloaked scouts reporting a target is there, or still there before the fleet warps in. Mostly the target has a bookmark already.


I will be there giving intel right now mostly in local to warn other players for possible harrasement and when pilots are bumped without reason, warning or convo. (Happend to me several times)

Ships lost: 318,497
Ships destroyed: 141,860

Bad ratio and there’s nothing lower in terms of Eve Online than a bumper.

So this intel should be to protect freighters and miners from idiots.

What they love: Gank you
What they hate: Wardecs! So more, so better. This mostly let them be docked and duck sitting.

So far. Cheers.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#74 - 2016-03-27 00:01:33 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
There are around 29 gankers in Uedama.

They are most of the time using cheap Catalyst with Tech 1 settings in Fleet Warp:

Fitting on guns:
Light Neutron Blasters I, some (2 or three of them) Light Neutron Blaster T2. Void S
or
8x Light Neutron Blasters / Caldari Antimatter S

Mid:
F90 Combat Sensor Booster 2x
(or 1x Warp Scrambler)

Low:
2x Magnetic Feld Stab T1/ T2

Rigs:
Smal Processor Overclocking Unit T1
Small Hyprid Burst Aerator T1

Possible other ships: Brutix (also Talos and sometimes Vexor/ Thorax), Trasher(Art)/ Ore belts.

Corps mostly all in alliance CODE.
Corps:
Chugunium PODS (3 Members)
The Conference Elite (159 Members, mostly dead ones)
Shooting Blues Everyday (51 Members) <- they are mostly hauling loot and ransom
Monkey Attack Squad (160 Members, Leftover from Goonswarm Fed mostly dead)
Big Diggers (91 members, mostly dead)
The New Order Gamis Affiliat (10 Members)
Wildly Inapproriate (979 Members most dead - Goonswarm leftovers)
New Order Logistics (201 mostly dead)
Zima Corp (696 Members mostly dead)

They have scouts also (of course), mostly named such as Alt Proxy, Alt 00, Alt something...

Players names so far:
HABEPHO
lyalanon
Zula Terra (Corp Thief as of C&P)
GR13Fy
Itake Urcargo (Hauler)
Nikonor Drishenko (Possible alt Bratok Srayona)
TheInternet TweepsOnline T
Dredd Simon
Krominal
Aaaarrgg (alt Aaaarrgg-its a-Smurf (NPC), A-STONED SMURF Aaaargg, OMG its-CODE Aaaarrgg and some more of this brilliant name (look it up at Char search)
Assassn Gallic
Empire Raider
Keraina Talie-Kuo
SynthiaGreey
Efrosyni Dora
Rogral
Georgia Agape
Solar Gleam
AndroGon Navy
Irritainment
Kibbera
Kiki Sotiria
PostOp Transexual
Get Well Soon
Konstantina Demi
Charlotte Lowell
Fiddly Pop
Melina Timothea
Pod-Goo RepoWoman
Freighter Soprano, Hauler (NPC, often seen in Jita/ Caldari Navy Assembly Plant)
Wolf Soprano (NPC), alt Wolf ' s Soprano (NPC)
Elena Sabezan (NPC Bumper on gates, mostly Machariel)

Other pilots (double posts possible):
Bing Bangboom
Talon Calais
Zakurell0 Linda (Zero at the end of name, not Oh!)
Booka Shade
Mildron Klinker
Spine Ripper (Possible alt yodayblack)
Joel Kusion
Jake Kusion
Justin Kusion
Jeremiah Kusion
Knackered Old Goat
Perlo Tissant
Lawrence Lawton
Lament von Gankheim
Booka Shade
Winnie Po0h
Zopiclone
Dom Desouza
sun-tzu rollard

and for sure a hand full more and alts. Other then that some locals who had to pay ransom are also present and supporting them, otherwise they would pee in their pants if they dont.

Intel we have says about 19 locals or people rushing through the system payed the ransom of 10 mill, valid for one year. (Note to readers: You NEVER pay ransom to gankers. Never!)

Ransom payed (and those players could be scouts too):

The Specter
Maroon Tough
Kurg Aari
Edier Creire-Geng
Khanid Beauty
Manjo Jenkins
Celes Tialn
Mad Tao
Kyr Jacelern
Aynamka Overdose
Pandorath
Cylon 1
Mush Roum
Dr Zhivago
SwiftxFate Codie
Virm Pasuul
Ankh1
Deadmankilling
Nameless Assailant


Corp cash: About 225 Mill ISK +/-

Most of the gankers are noobs/alts or not very old. With locator service it is for sure possible to locate them if not in system.

It is possible they use Multiboxer for ganking. Proof of that missing but possible by same lastname alts/ logged in same time.

They have bumpers (mostly Machariel) belonging to NPC corps and their freighter (Fenrir) Alts/haulers are also NPC corps. They mostly dock up in "Caldari Steel Warehous" station in Uedama. There are some sticks in the system and close by systems as well.

If you warp to station/ gates/ planets and so on they can have cargo containers up 100km/ 70km and so on at warp point, mostly to get you out of cloak if you are.

They mostly camp/ duck sit Caldari Steel Warehouse, mainly gate Sivala and Juunigaishi from both sides but mostly within 0.5

Method: Warp in fleet with more as 25-30 Caracals, dedstroy target, get concorded and warp up to Caldari Steel Warehouse again. Rinse and repeat.

How they abuse Concord:

They pull Concord away from victims about 150km. In this way it is possilbe to do multiple raids on same or close by targets. They mostly then dock in their pods and undock again with aggression timer in a Rookie Ship to move Concord further away or even let Concord spawn in a neighbor system. The trick is rock old and I would almost say this qualifies using an exploit while doing that. So always try to stay close to Concord ships while being attacked or bumped.

They have bookmarks on stations to get there quicker and also put bookmarks on targets to let the fleet warp in quicker. So look for spots they often warp in/out.

In belts/ ice fields they have scouts/ cloaked scouts reporting a target is there, or still there before the fleet warps in. Mostly the target has a bookmark already.


I will be there giving intel right now mostly in local to warn other players for possible harrasement and when pilots are bumped without reason, warning or convo. (Happend to me several times)

Ships lost: 318,497
Ships destroyed: 141,860

Bad ratio and there’s nothing lower in terms of Eve Online than a bumper.

So this intel should be to protect freighters and miners from idiots.

What they love: Gank you
What they hate: Wardecs! So more, so better. This mostly let them be docked and duck sitting.

So far. Cheers.

Mmmmmmmmm useless

Especially the part about them caringabout wardecs
ESPECIALLY that one LolLolLol

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#75 - 2016-03-27 00:52:33 UTC
Not sure about this Dom. But could keep them busy with other activities as to gank. They could match up in real fights then what would be justified.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#76 - 2016-03-27 00:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
Lol most do ganking as a side activity.
MOST.
That being said, it's what made me start killing stuff around,
And I don't regret any of it

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#77 - 2016-03-27 01:03:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Sure, Ships has to be blown up. Otherwise the game would not make sense and it is also fun. Question is how and where. In WH we killed everything and we had to count on it to be killed as soon we left the pos bubble.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#78 - 2016-03-27 01:43:04 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Sure, Ships has to be blown up. Otherwise the game would not make sense and it is also fun. Question is how and where. In WH we killed everything and we had to count on it to be killed as soon we left the pos bubble.

How: Be creative
Where: wherever there are ships in space -_-
What a stupid question tbh

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#79 - 2016-03-27 21:18:54 UTC
I can confirm that as an alliance of -10 chars we really hate wardecs.