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Best solo pvp frig and fit type for FW
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Gaius Athonille
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-15 22:21:12 UTC
Hello. Im back to eve after 6y break. I joined FW, and I really like it. My tactic is simple, i roam low sec and trying to find 1v1 fight in novices/small plex (i found this is the fastest way to find 1v1 fight, maybe there is a faster/better way??)

I wonder what ships are the best for solo pvp around plexes (attack other ppl doing plex) and What is the best fit type (that gives me the biggest engagment profile) for attack others in plexes when they dictate an initial range.

I played for example MWD+long point tristan, and it was great when I was sitting inside the plex and waited for the enemy. But not so great when I attacked someone in the plex.

I want to apologize for my English, I'm still learning
Snezz Boscone
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#2 - 2016-01-16 01:57:57 UTC
I think you should first determine how you want to engage targets. If you like doing the kiting thing then figure out a good kiting fit. Like the Tristan,.If you wanna brawl at close range then find a fit for that. Every setup is going to have an achilles heel making the concept of a best ship moot. Pick how you want to fighf and then try to approach each engagement with your weaknesses in mind. Don't try to warp in on a plex on top a a brawler that can point you as soon as you land on the beacon. The opposite also applies. I know from experience that engaging everything will usually end in you dying in a fire. But FW plexes have been good to me for finding fights.
Gaius Athonille
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-01-16 13:54:02 UTC
Thanks for answer Snezz.

I know pvp in Eve is more complicated than simply choosing the best ship and fit.

I just need something to start with. So im looking for ship and fit that gives me the biggest engagment profile.
Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#4 - 2016-01-22 13:07:28 UTC
Tristan, lml breacher is very good, rail incursus, beam sllicer, comet... take ur pick ^^
Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#5 - 2016-01-22 15:04:41 UTC
Biggest engagement profile imo would be any properly fit frigate if you are positioned tactically, ie already setup inside a plex and a fast kitey fit if you're going into an occupied plex as it gives more options to get into range.

Better advice: grab a dozen brawlers or kitey ships and see which type you like to fly then build on that. Once you get proficient you can start branching out into other styles. Remember to take fights your fit us capable of handling and not fights for the lols.

The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated - The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-01-24 03:03:47 UTC
Gaius Athonille wrote:


I just need something to start with. So im looking for ship and fit that gives me the biggest engagment profile.



Griffin Navy. Good luck finding a fight. Lol
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#7 - 2016-01-24 03:12:28 UTC
Best ship is friendship. Otherwise spend as much isk on a garmur as possible!
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#8 - 2016-01-25 00:17:58 UTC
Here are some of the best ships in my opinion for being engaging and still performing.


  • Federation Navy Comet - They can sport a massive hull tank with decent dps and active rep. Running either rails or blasters - very powerful ship. In my opinion one of the most well rounded ships to fly.
  • Hookbill - Does not have the same raw power as the Comet but it can still be formidable. Has great projection with rockets and light missiles alike - but if you want to fit a tank the same level as a Comet you will have to sacrifice some of your flexibility. Great potential for fitting it in multiple ways and using its E-War slots.
  • Republic Firetail - Blend between the previous two - I don't fly it enough to know in which ways it is severely different. But it can still be fit as a solid brawler or a kite ship.
  • Breacher - Nice speed, good tank and decent mid slots. Bonus being rockets allowing you to get better range on blaster fits.
  • Kestrel - Very flexible ship with decent raw stats and ewar potential.
  • Slasher - Fast, low sig and a nice count of mid slots.
  • Tristan - Probably the strongest of the Tech 1 frigates. Has the most flexible envelope of engagement, can be fit with Neuts, blasters, rails or anything else. Drones project and track well, applying solid dps with selectable damage types. Can kite effectively or brawl decently.


On principle I wouldn't fly the worm because of how absurdly broken it is.
Tiberius Mathusia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-01-28 12:09:30 UTC
Scram kite Comet is pretty solid though you get less fights than if you fly something like a scram kite Rifter or another T1 frigate.
Jarsoom Blade
Blade's Legion
#10 - 2016-01-30 18:13:21 UTC
My Merlin fit:

[Merlin]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50

Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Navy Cap Booster 50 x18
Void S x480
Null S x360


220 DPS cold, which is great on a T1 frig. With lower gunnery skills still around 200 DPS
3526 EHP, resists EM 51/ Therm 60,8/ KIN 58/ EXPLO 65 (two EM rigs gets thermal at 44% resist, so one EM, one therm)
996 m/s cold which isn't bad, scram has no effect on your speed at least.
Cheap price tag at around 5mil for ship+fit

"Two things I've learned lately. One: don't get jammed. And two: stationary ships don't react well to 1400's" - John Rourke, Clear Skies 2
Morathi II
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-01 03:48:20 UTC
hookbIll :p dual web rockets wIth TD & armor tank or wIth shIeld and armor ancIllary for both rep XD, kIte hook are really good too due to Is hIgh alpha, good speed and good EHP
Borodin
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-02-01 06:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Borodin
Hello OP,

I'm in a somewhat similar situation to you. Recently came back to the game and decided to try FW PVP.

I prefer to fly kitey fits to avoid or outpilot blobs. I haven't been at it long but I've been flying a lot of kite Condors and so far I love them. I've learned a lot so far in this little ship.

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
5mn Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I

With my below average skills I get 3.8km/sec, 1k EHP, 65 dps (520 dps volley) and a 36km light missile range.

Obviously fit T2 LM's when you have the skills but you will need CPU Upgrades to V, otherwise you'll have to use implants to make it all fit.

You will die to anything that looks at you the wrong way so pick your fights carefully.

Costs about 6 mil fully fit.


Edit:

Since you're Gallente, I figured i'd post one of the fits i'm working towards...

Kite Tristan

Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
5mn Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

8x Light Drones

Can't tell you the details off the top of my head because I haven't flown it (yet) but I hear good things.

Only thing that bothers me about this fit is that drones can be killed, and they're commonly targetted when you're fighting other kitey ships such as the Condor fit I posted above or Navy Slicers.

Also about 6 mil to fit.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-02-05 06:59:33 UTC
Comet.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#14 - 2016-02-05 13:08:33 UTC
My 2 favourite holiday ships for when i visit solo pvp:

BRAWLING:
[Jaguar, Lan Wang's Jaguar]
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Balmer Series Compact Tracking Disruptor I,Optimal Range Disruption Script

Small Energy Neutralizer II
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


KITING:
[Harpy, Lan Wang's Harpy]
Co-Processor II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2016-02-06 15:13:51 UTC


an empty rifter for defensive plexing. If you are going to keep an eye on your ship then put 3 wcs on it.
Burtakus
Lone W0lf Society
#16 - 2016-03-07 17:28:21 UTC
Fed Navy Comet.

MWD with 150 rails and active armor tank.
Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-03-09 09:12:28 UTC
anything that can hit out to about 10km and has 3 mids.
Shelom Severasse
Legion Ascending
Fraternity.
#18 - 2016-03-23 20:33:33 UTC
there is no "best" ship. iv killed tons of things with a punisher which is regarded as the worst ship in the game. its all relative man
Biff Parker
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#19 - 2016-03-29 11:22:36 UTC
Borodin wrote:
Hello OP,

I'm in a somewhat similar situation to you. Recently came back to the game and decided to try FW PVP.

I prefer to fly kitey fits to avoid or outpilot blobs. I haven't been at it long but I've been flying a lot of kite Condors and so far I love them. I've learned a lot so far in this little ship.

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
5mn Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I

With my below average skills I get 3.8km/sec, 1k EHP, 65 dps (520 dps volley) and a 36km light missile range.

Obviously fit T2 LM's when you have the skills but you will need CPU Upgrades to V, otherwise you'll have to use implants to make it all fit.

You will die to anything that looks at you the wrong way so pick your fights carefully.

Costs about 6 mil fully fit.


Edit:

Since you're Gallente, I figured i'd post one of the fits i'm working towards...

Kite Tristan

Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
5mn Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

8x Light Drones

Can't tell you the details off the top of my head because I haven't flown it (yet) but I hear good things.

Only thing that bothers me about this fit is that drones can be killed, and they're commonly targetted when you're fighting other kitey ships such as the Condor fit I posted above or Navy Slicers.

Also about 6 mil to fit.





Hey there,

I'm also a new player getting into Fw solo pvp.
I have injected 27 million SP into relevant frig pvp skills, specifically into missikes/rockets. I've been following a modified version of Suitonias kestrel build: it's basically extended shield, ballistic, override, single Web etc etc.. all tech2. .. however I've lost about 20 kestrels and earning only 2 kills. I'm absolutely gutted and becoming discouraged. As far as my piloting skills go, I'm OK, managing to stay out of brawler range when appropriate, or staying close during beam or rail gun fights... I always lose.

Keeping in mind all my SP in missiles/rockets.... what's an alternative frigate that I could use for faction warfare solo pvp that will be successful? I've seen the condor fit above and will look into this, but are there any other options also? Hook bill maybe?

Or should I persevere with the Kestrel and work through my mistakes?

Thanks!
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#20 - 2016-03-30 23:13:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
firetail.

Fitted: 280mms, 2 webs, scram, AB, armor tank.
Cargo: 200mms, shield extender, mwd, mobile depot.

How to fly: You see a brawler? Scramkite him. You see a scramkiter? Brawl him, you have the double webs, you win. You see a kiter? MWD brawl him.

Definately the most versatile frigate out there and allows you to learn everything in it and has the ability to fight pretty much any other frigate and come out on top. Even Daredevils, if you do your homework well.

Ammo to carry: Thermal damge (Phased Plasm) and explosive (hail for the ACs, Quake for the Arties). Depleted Uranium is a bonus you can take with you for your arties.
When to use what ammo: Suspected armor tanking enemy? Use explosive ammo, except when it's an Amarr T2/T3 hull.
Suspected shield tanking enemy? Use Phased Plasm, except when it's Gal/Cal/Min T2/T3.
Not sure? Use Phased Plasm.
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