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***Freighter Ganks have doubled in Hisec---How to avoid******
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2016-03-23 10:00:03 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Bruce Kemp wrote:
(puts on tin foil hat)

How come red frog/black frog ganks are rare?

Are they secretly behind all the freighter ganks to boost there business.... Blink

Because they aren't idiots mostly.


Shh, we are not allowed to point out they have a 99.9% safety record over 2 million gate jumps.
Ni Neith
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2016-03-23 10:08:08 UTC
Aaron Honk wrote:
Terranid Meester wrote:
How to avoid the majority of gankers?

Don't go to Jita.


Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null


Wormhole space is actually the safest place to be.
Anke Eyrou
Hades Sisters
#63 - 2016-03-23 13:07:08 UTC
Ni Neith wrote:
Aaron Honk wrote:
Terranid Meester wrote:
How to avoid the majority of gankers?

Don't go to Jita.


Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null


Wormhole space is actually the safest place to be.


Only if you're blue

I expect to get this post deleted or locked. So much for freedom of expression.

Ms Biatchy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2016-03-23 13:08:26 UTC
Anke Eyrou wrote:
Ni Neith wrote:
Aaron Honk wrote:
Terranid Meester wrote:
How to avoid the majority of gankers?

Don't go to Jita.


Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null


Wormhole space is actually the safest place to be.


Only if you're blue


To HK.
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#65 - 2016-03-23 13:48:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Expendable Unit
[quote=Caligula Nalelmir
Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank.
[/quote]

Ok then, fly Obelisk. Problem solved.

(LOL at my quote... I always sucked at forums)
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2016-03-24 13:17:54 UTC
How to avoid getting ganked in a freighter: Don't fly a freighter.
How to significantly reduce the risk of receiving suprise buttsex with your freighter;
a) avoid frequently bumped areas
b) webbing alt
c) fly with you buddy who is also in a freighter but more likely to get ganked (more expensive cargo, less tank, combination)
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2016-03-25 00:19:35 UTC
Or just wait for a WH door...
Anthar Thebess
#68 - 2016-03-25 07:26:11 UTC
CCP buffed freighter EHP so small time gankers needed to join big groups to still have fun.
Big groups have more people, so can gank more using cheaper ships.

I still wonder if this is not the thing CCP actually wanted.

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Fiddly Pop
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#69 - 2016-03-25 15:09:54 UTC
I heard, but don't know if it is true,for each plex you have in your cargo hold you get a 3% buff to ehp.

get enough of them in there and they won't be able to gank you.
Salt Foambreaker
Greedy Pirates
#70 - 2016-03-25 16:31:41 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
CCP buffed freighter EHP so small time gankers needed to join big groups to still have fun.
Big groups have more people, so can gank more using cheaper ships.

I still wonder if this is not the thing CCP actually wanted.


Actually, about half the group in question is a multi box/plex.
Sasha Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#71 - 2016-03-25 17:28:08 UTC
Hey if anyone is interested, code is looking for some freighter pilots to do alliance logistics.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet
Everyone But Me Is A Bot
Assistance Group
#72 - 2016-03-25 18:49:48 UTC
Sasha Cohenberg wrote:
Hey if anyone is interested, code is looking for some freighter pilots to do alliance logistics.


Yes. Freighter pilots can mail me in-game if they are interested in getting involved with alliance logistics. Having a mining permit is good. Being blue to us is better.
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#73 - 2016-03-27 01:49:19 UTC
Freighters dying in highsec? No way.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Firnen Bakru
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2016-03-27 11:07:25 UTC
It's amazingly easy

- fly with tank
- use a webber


I cargo scan easily up to 1000 freighters per day on my alts and when we are lucky we have one guy that is actually worth it. You cant patch stupidity. 20b freighter autopiloting not even with tank fitted? C'mon guys
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#75 - 2016-03-27 11:17:26 UTC
Firnen Bakru wrote:
It's amazingly easy

- fly with tank
- use a webber


I cargo scan easily up to 1000 freighters per day on my alts and when we are lucky we have one guy that is actually worth it. You cant patch stupidity. 20b freighter autopiloting not even with tank fitted? C'mon guys


What baffles me is why someone thinks that's okay. You're hauling that much and not taking some simple precautions? You deserve to get exploded.
hipotecadoydesgraciado
Incursion Omega
Cosmos Origins
#76 - 2016-03-27 11:59:22 UTC
1ºUse Convoys...like in WW2
2ºJoin"antiganking channel for NEWS..
Zula Terra
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#77 - 2016-03-28 01:11:40 UTC
The freighter ganks have doubled as a response to freighters getting such a significant ehp buff.

This is what they call retaliation.

Deal with it, you asked for buffs and got them, now deal with the consequences.
https://youtu.be/HOe8-iFpDsI The Elite send their regards.

Top tier pvper and one of directors of The Conference Elite, recruiting is very selective.
Fiddly Pop
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#78 - 2016-03-28 13:17:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Fiddly Pop
Zula Terra wrote:
...
This is what they call retaliation.
....


I don't see it as retaliation, I see it as staying compliant with Newton's third law

Quote:
When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.


CODE. and physics Always win, always!
Zula Terra
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#79 - 2016-03-28 21:24:23 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again?
Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged.


What happened is that CCP buffed freighters lol. Just like how buffing mining ships lead to more mining ship ganks, and anchor rigs lead to more constant bumping.

See, a certain segment of the community celebrates anytime they perceive something is going to 'nerf gankers'. They are mentally incapable of understanding who gankers are (they tend to be the types that, rather than be discouraged by nerfs, they get ticked off and emboldened by them) so they keep thinking "one more nerf" is going to do the trick.

Folks like that will never get hip to one fact: the 'answer' to gankers isn't 'nerfs', it's awareness, gameplay knowledge and mental toughness. Have those 3 things (and teach them to new players) and gankers basically don't even exist for you.


Quote:
they tend to be the types that, rather than be discouraged by nerfs, they get ticked off and emboldened by them


Confirming that nerfs just **** me off and I go harder.

Top tier pvper and one of directors of The Conference Elite, recruiting is very selective.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#80 - 2016-03-29 03:19:21 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again?
Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged.



What happened was CCP made changes that made ganking harder (most significantly the insurance changes), which meant gankers got much more organised than they used to be.

Ganking solo isn't much fun, so people did it for a little while then moved on. Ganking in big fleets, however, is hilariously fun and so people keep doing it longer as a result.



Freighter pilots need to learn that freighters are not ships suitable for solo play.

I don't undock my PVP fit Kronos when solo unless I am able to escalate. And between neuts, guns, cap injectors and a massive active tank, it can protect itself far better than a freighter can.

Until the freighter pilots learn this, CODE. will continue to teach them expensive lessons.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com