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Would F2P EVE with a cap of 3 mil SP be a bad thing for the game?

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Killwitch
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-03-22 20:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Killwitch
Like a lot of other people, I play Eve on and off, and usually lurk in the forums in between.

I know I would definitely keep the game installed and login If I had a permanent low skill pilot for fun activities.

I assume that would create problems with botters etc, guess you could limit that by restricting the amount of ISK the character can send to other players?

The 3 mil SP is of course just a number, could be anything.
Leeluvv
United Caldari Navy
United Caldari Space Command.
#2 - 2016-03-22 20:17:05 UTC
Killwitch wrote:
Like a lot of other people, I play Eve on and off, and usually lurk in the forums in between.

I know I would definitely keep the game installed and login If I had a permanent low skill pilot for fun activities.

I assume that would create problems with botters etc, guess you could limit that by restricting the amount of ISK the character can send to other players?

The 3 mil SP is of course just a number, could be anything.



F2P = alt city. A low SP cap just means you need more free alts.
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-03-22 20:18:07 UTC
yes
Lasisha Mishi
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2016-03-22 20:20:48 UTC
the number of mining alts i could make.....
Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
#5 - 2016-03-22 20:25:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron Honk
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#6 - 2016-03-22 20:27:37 UTC
Maxed mining alt for exhumers L5 is 5.5mil SP approx, trade is 4.5mil or so, PI is 3mil iirc.....


Yeah no thanx.Roll

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Leeluvv
United Caldari Navy
United Caldari Space Command.
#7 - 2016-03-22 20:32:09 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Maxed mining alt for exhumers L5 is 5.5mil SP approx, trade is 4.5mil or so, PI is 3mil iirc.....


Yeah no thanx.Roll


They're free. Who cares if they aren't maxxed.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#8 - 2016-03-22 20:33:17 UTC
F2P until 3M SP?

I'm sure any number of CODE people will be along shortly to voice their support for this gankers wet dream.

Mr Epeen Cool
Hello Meza
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-03-22 20:34:14 UTC
OP's reasoning literally makes no sense.
Salt Foambreaker
Greedy Pirates
#10 - 2016-03-22 20:53:45 UTC
Raise army of alts to 3mill

EXTRACT!!

Repeat Big smile
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-03-22 20:57:28 UTC
I don't know.

F2P with no progression other than through skill injectors doesn't sound like a bad idea.

That way, they gain no SP passively unless subscribed, but can gain skills by paying for injectors, which means ISK for people that are subscribed and $ for CCP both for the skill farming alts and likely PLEX to purchase injectors.

Not a bad idea in my view.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2016-03-22 20:58:45 UTC
Salt Foambreaker wrote:
Raise army of alts to 3mill

EXTRACT!!

Repeat Big smile

http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-03-22 20:59:29 UTC
Salt Foambreaker wrote:
Raise army of alts to 3mill

EXTRACT!!

Repeat Big smile

I don't think you understand how extraction works.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2016-03-22 21:09:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
I don't know.

F2P with no progression other than through skill injectors doesn't sound like a bad idea.

That way, they gain no SP passively unless subscribed, but can gain skills by paying for injectors, which means ISK for people that are subscribed and $ for CCP both for the skill farming alts and likely PLEX to purchase injectors.

Not a bad idea in my view.

thats a terrible idea because there are literally endless things you can do once you skill them once and leave be.

for instance , cloaking probing explorer/scout alts as they run just a hare under 2m sp.
the obvious cyno alts, fwlpfarmer alts, gashuffing alts,miners
i could have eyes cloaky eyes in every system of a damn region.

the sp number is irrelevant if you arent either being billed or having to plex for access to tq on a per-account level.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Killwitch
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-03-22 21:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Killwitch
I guess I should have also stated what I thought was the obvious :P :

You could limit the skills these accounts can train, just like trial accounts work currently.

Them putting up all sorts of orders in the market etc could be an issue, I guess you could again address that by not allowing these accounts to make advanced orders and just insta-sell/insta-buy?
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-03-22 21:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
I used to have videos of a game I used to play.


It was a Korean MMO and the gold spammers had TRAINS of characters running to spots to kill monsters. Do you doubt the Chinese would do this to EVE?



The awnser is no for "choose one of the many reasons"

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2016-03-22 21:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Killwitch wrote:
I guess you could again address that by

by bining this f2p stupidity, seems like a much sounder corse of action imo

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#18 - 2016-03-22 21:22:15 UTC
Let's add a Rorq pilot for € 399.- including a Rorq and an Orca.

299.- on holidays, including a skin for mining drones.

Remove standings and insurance.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#19 - 2016-03-22 21:44:46 UTC
F2P Eve?

Ask Mr. Kat.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#20 - 2016-03-22 21:48:10 UTC
Leeluvv wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Maxed mining alt for exhumers L5 is 5.5mil SP approx, trade is 4.5mil or so, PI is 3mil iirc.....


Yeah no thanx.Roll


They're free. Who cares if they aren't maxxed.

I think you missed my point there. So let me spell it out for you....



NO!

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
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