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Three Month Uncollateralized 15B Bond at 12% [Closed]
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Darth Bane
Polly want a cracker
#1 - 2012-01-12 01:40:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Bane
Bond Details:
Total amount borrowed: 15b
ROI: 12%
Collateral: None

Payout dates:
February 15th, 2012
March 15th, 2012
April 15th, 2012 + Release of initial investment.

If bond is not filled by the 15th of January, the payout dates will be adjusted for each investor in one month increments from their investment date.

Job Description:
Quote:
The isk will be used to purchase 3 jump freighters to be used in and out of low sec transporting purchased goods to trade hubs for a high margin. The influx of business has been so acute that I need the added safety and speed of a jump freighter making trips deep into low sec several times a day. If needed, I have more than enough isk tied up in the market to liquidate and pay back any amount borrowed within 24 hours of a request, as well as any interest earned to that point. This would also be the case in an extreme scenario where one of the JFs are destroyed.


Investor list:



Please feel free to look into the thread I posted yesterday involving the preliminary details of this bond. You may find answers to some questions you may have there, as well as note the adjustments I have made.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56228

You may send isk to myself in-game with reason "BOND", and you will be added to the investor list accordingly. I will post here confirming that the bond has been filled, and refund any isk sent after the bond has been filled.

I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to expand my business, and I hope that we can work together in the future. Please keep this thread clean, any questions or special arrangements can be answered by evemail.
Block Ukx
420 Enterprises.
#2 - 2012-01-12 03:31:42 UTC
Darth Bane wrote:
... Please keep this thread clean, any questions or special arrangements can be answered by evemail.



So you don't want people to asks questions here?


Darth Bane
Polly want a cracker
#3 - 2012-01-12 03:42:20 UTC
Block Ukx wrote:
Darth Bane wrote:
... Please keep this thread clean, any questions or special arrangements can be answered by evemail.



So you don't want people to asks questions here?




I suppose that was misleading. I would welcome legitimate questions, I just want to minimize the trolling :)
Avensys
The Waterworks
#4 - 2012-01-12 07:27:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Avensys
Darth Bane wrote:


Payout dates:
February 15th, 2012
March 15th, 2012
April 15th, 2012 + Release of initial investment.

If bond is not filled by the 15th of July, the payout dates will be adjusted for each investor in one month increments from their investment date.

If the bond is not filled by July 15th you won't pay back the principal on April 15th?

please accept my investment on July 14th, looking forward to receive the first payment in February.
Gatan Hahran
Brukterer
#5 - 2012-01-12 10:05:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Gatan Hahran
Darth Bane wrote:
I just want to minimize the trolling :)


Trolls became the plague of MD and i hope they stay out of this thread.

Darth Bane wrote:
is 8% ROI over 3 months enough?

Darth Bane wrote:
If the scam rate is (hypothetically) 2%, and your return is 12%, over several investments of the same amount you would come out on top by 10%.

Darth Bane wrote:
Bond Details:
Total amount borrowed: 15b
ROI: 12%
Collateral: None


The problem here is that if the scam rate is (hypothetically) 97%, and your return is 12%, over several investments of the same amount you would lose 96,64% (no math expert), assuming 1 month bonds.
Darth Bane
Polly want a cracker
#6 - 2012-01-12 15:51:34 UTC
Avensys wrote:
Darth Bane wrote:


Payout dates:
February 15th, 2012
March 15th, 2012
April 15th, 2012 + Release of initial investment.

If bond is not filled by the 15th of July, the payout dates will be adjusted for each investor in one month increments from their investment date.

If the bond is not filled by July 15th you won't pay back the principal on April 15th?

please accept my investment on July 14th, looking forward to receive the first payment in February.


Mistype. My apologies - fixed.

Gatan Hahran wrote:

The problem here is that if the scam rate is (hypothetically) 97%, and your return is 12%, over several investments of the same amount you would lose 96,64% (no math expert), assuming 1 month bonds.


When it comes down to it, you can trust me with your isk and make a fair profit, or you can keep it for yourself or invest elsewhere. I can not create a reputation without first having been trusted. I could get friends or associates to post here to claim my legitimacy, but they would be called alts and probably would hurt more than help.

I would appreciate any interest in my bond, but if you decide against investing due to lack of collateral I completely understand.
Gatan Hahran
Brukterer
#7 - 2012-01-12 16:58:14 UTC
Darth Bane wrote:

When it comes down to it, you can trust me with your isk and make a fair profit, or you can keep it for yourself or invest elsewhere. I can not create a reputation without first having been trusted.

This is right, but 15 billion is a bit high for a "first try" of trusting. Usually the rep grind starts at 100m-1b

Darth Bane wrote:
I could get friends or associates to post here to claim my legitimacy, but they would be called alts and probably would hurt more than help.

That totally depends on your friends or associates. If your friend happens to be in a NPC corp and started playing EVE 4 days ago, yeah that might not help. If your friend is chribba it would indeed help, maybe not for getting 15b, but its a start.
Darth Bane
Polly want a cracker
#8 - 2012-01-15 14:28:16 UTC
Okay, today is the 15th of January, and with no interest whatsoever in my bond I will close it and pursue other means of funding my business. Maybe later, or next time, I will request a more reasonable amount and build up trust. Thanks for the information and lack of trolling in my thread :).