EVE General Discussion

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If you need a steady income to provide for a pvp char, just go play the market at one of the major trading hubs in highsec. Possibly with some industry close to the tradehub. You'll only need to be active once every, say hour. The risk is low and the income depends on how much isk you put into it.

I assume you are joking; or maybe simply do not know what you are talking about.

Market PvP is probably one of the riskiest activities (you can lose billions by investing in the wrong items).

Manufacturing on the other hand takes a lot of planning (and spreadsheets) and you will probably be scraping together less than what you can make by mission running unless you make it to being one of the few industry tycoons in the game.

Incursions or something wormhole related is probably the best ISK/hour for the majority of people.

Multi-boxing with several accounts in null sec ratting is the highest steady and predictable income with relatively low risk.
about 70kk ISK\h per account All you need is T2 cruisers and drones.

WH C5 in a carrier can net you about 300kk ISK per site and about 500kk with escalation but you will attract attention from some gentlemen's that are eager to deliver large shipments of torpedoes in to your wormhole and this way cutting your income as you have to pay for the delivery.

What does kk stands for? Millions? And if so. How??

And from wich word would that k=1000 come? Kilo?

... told op to go ask in ncq&a ... op chose to post in gd

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You should be asking this question in the proper forum also, mission and complexes. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=410322 .

Still valid information there. If you are looking for the best isk to (low) risk ratio, the answer is (still) high sec sansha incursions. It's the same isk/hour flying one ship in high sec (protected by both CONCORD and a dedicated player logistics squad as flying 2 'semi-afk' drone boats while watching local/intel in null and having to warp off a lot.

The cost of initial entry is lower in terms of isk (an incursion fit Hyperion cost less than 2 properly fit VNIs) but higher in terms of time (ie a proper pirate BS or tech 2 logi ship takes more time to perfect than a ratting ishtar does, ishtar is superior to VNI in every way except cost) and in the long term in general.

Lvl 5 missions done with carriers properly takes a HUGE initial isk investment (because the best way to do it is with multiple carriers that are pre-positioned in the systems where you will actually do the mission, taking gates or jumping to cynos to do lvl 5 missions is , well, stupid) and a HUGE time/standings investment. It is the best solo PVE isk possible in the game besides using a Marauder in c5 wormholes. And if you know what you are doing, it's way less risky (never in a mission site more than 2 minutes).

There is also Burner Mission Blitzing. Here is a guide.

I make freighters and jump freighters. 2-4 million isk per hour per ship. That sounds low but that profit cranks out 24 hrs a day. Very little actual time investment. Maybe 10-15 hours a month spent on industry and buying/selling of materials and ships.

No you wouldn't, because unless you were asleep you'd have seen it coming early and cashed out quickly. Not to mention that you would only have lost potential profit, and still made isk over your initial investment. If anyone bought in on their 10b investment at 30%+ over the current gekco price they were mugs.

But you can only lose it by making dumb mistakes then not dealing with those mistakes quickly. You aren't just going to wake up to find out that CCP have already patched in an economy changing balance and the market has already reacted. You will invariably see changes before the vast majority of the playerbase does (because one assumes if you are slinging hundreds of billions into long term investment you keep up to date on current events) so you'll be able to react to the changes before they have a significant effect. And again, you'll only be losing potential profit. If you are losing actual invested isk from the announcement of a change then you made an error in judgement when you bought in.