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What Would Be a Good Military Strategy for 15+ Pilots?

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#21 - 2016-03-20 18:05:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
Buzz Orti wrote:
No, you're are really off-topic because it can't be any good for me.
You're only mentioning strategy to attack me and to incite others to do so.
Hardly a good measure in this thread or any others for that matter.

What about a strategy to harass players by reading their post to try mentally challenge them?
Again, that would be off-topic if that is not of any good to them.

Just because you try to coerce me or attack me with claims that you are not off-topic, when you are clearly only raising hell, isn't going to make it any more on topic.

The fact that you state that you decide what is on topic, or even lie about what is good for me is not a good medical service either, and whether I am afraid or not afraid isn't going to change this.

What do you think we should do , as part of our military strategy, to deal with traitors like you , if you were suggesting this to our corp?

What is the meaning that I don't see in them?
You certainly are only trying to attack me and are not even going to be able to ever formulate any sort of form of military strategy for me or my corp.
Move along, and go awox someone else if that's what you must do, and stay away from us.


Edit:
Even if I did work on API that 3rd party programmer would use to generate info for the game (still an automation process, even if it does not change in-game functions or processes)
and that work is thwarted by changes , as method to deny me rights to the work I would create, that would also be a Military Strategy in-game and out of the game as well. Especially if that were supported by the courts of that military entity.

Why should I have to waste 2 weeks learning about API which are only going to be changed, when I can program on my own for over a year already, and the work is still and always going to be good with any API changes or other electronic warfare?


Trying to hide behind your lack of knowledge or understanding isn't going to save you.
Trying to blame me for a lack of appropriate communication isn't going to save you either when I clearly am the one communicating and starting the thread on this.

The point is, you didn't want me to communicate in the first place, and you prefer justifying to restrict my communication, so that you can blame it on my lack of knowledge for communication.
That wouldn't be my fault because you would have tried to generate it, and 2. I would have been able to counter it, and 3. even prove how you came about to try to coerce me into this.

If you try to change the subject as part of Good Military strategy isn't of any good to me either.
How and why should it be?




It's impossible to be off-topic when no one bleeding knows what the topic in the first place is. You going off on tangents about awoxers and whatnot is baffling, as is constantly referring to 'Military Strategists'. What the hell are you on about?


ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
What am I even reading.



You do realise that no one save the OP can really understand this thread, right? Constant appeals to the OP to clarify, in direct and non-tangential English, what the hell he's on about have failed - and indeed have been met with more lexical opaqueness. I've seen other nonsensical threads being locked quicker than this.



E: Buzz - I'm just asking you, as I have in your other threads, to kindly just explain yourself in a more direct manner. If not for my benefit, then certainly for that of other players whose first language might not be English and might therefore struggle with what you say. Do it for them, please, Buzz.Smile

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2016-03-20 18:45:12 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
...
It's impossible to be off-topic when no one bleeding knows what the topic in the first place is. You going

off on tangents about awoxers and whatnot is baffling, as is constantly referring to 'Military

Strategists'. What the hell are you on about?
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
What am I even reading.

You do realise that no one save the OP can really understand this thread, right? Constant appeals to the

OP to clarify, in direct and non-tangential English, what the hell he's on about have failed - and indeed

have been met with more lexical opaqueness. I've seen other nonsensical threads being locked quicker than

this.

How can it be impossible to be off-topic ?
You were off-topic because your suggestions are no good, simple as that.

You even suggest my own question to get a good military strategy is no good and that you don't understand

because you don't read it.

It's as if you mean that the topic is about the number of readers rather than the subject itself.

"I am going on tangents" , obviously not any good to me for military strategy.

What not is that your suggestions are no good for sound, sane and efficient military strategy or even

strategies (plural).

And then , bring hell into this.


2.
Constant appeal to the OP to clarify...
Why don't you even take 10% of the time to read instead of getting it locked or deleted so you can't read

it?

Where is the formal appeal or even understated appeal.

Like if the military police or even court is telling me a fact is real and they have electronic evidence,

you have to understand it?
Excuse me, but if you don't know, you don't have to disturb the whole thread and all the other threads in

the name of your efforts.

Leave it be, the threads are not closed for 3 months if no one answers.

I planned to get input on Military Strategies that would be good to me, not to incite others to devise

ways to make their attacks good against me in my own thread.

If you are so inclined as to want to disturb me, why don't you post it in your own thread and get your

"friends" instead of trying to hide attacks for support in my own thread?

How could I even get anything out of this for 7 trillion?


Lexical Opaqueness:
what does that even mean?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lexical
Full Definition of lexical
1
: of or relating to words or the vocabulary of a language as distinguished from its grammar and

construction
2
: of or relating to a lexicon or to lexicography

Full Definition of opaque. 1 : blocking the passage of radiant energy and especially light : exhibiting

opacity (see opacity) 2 a : hard to understand or explain b : obtuse, thickheaded.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=bGbUAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=lexical

+opaqueness&source=bl&ots=3YGxfstV1A&sig=hs-

lku6iiqx9Ih7G91t_icnLI6U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEoLTV8M_LAhXEbSYKHVqzD0QQ6AEIKzAC#v=onepage&q=lexical

%20opaqueness&f=false

English - then one has not only automatically pre-emted otherwise unregulated
decisions in the area of foreign-language teaching - which language or languages
should be taught to whom - one has not only contributed, whether wittingly or
unwittingly, to the perseveration of the international language dominance
configuration, but one has perhaps unwittingly contributed to lexical opaqueness
in a mother-tongue which may well otherwise be lexically and morphologically
transparent. Opinions and findings are divided on the relative merits of full iconicity
(which implies opaqueness) and transparency (that is: morphological motivatedness)
in the lexis of a language, but it is widely believed that transparency aids understanding
and ease of learning in early schooling, as does the use at this age of the home
language-variety.

Erm, if you think I would expect someone too imature to be able to or even have to be able to give me a

sound military strategy , you would be in error.


Also, do I need a construction license to be able to make books and technical writings?
It doesn't take much skills to read and write, to think that I have to record my own writing by voice

could even change the context.
I could do it however, I have worked in publishing long enough to also be able to do that.




Let me block you so I don't have to read your negativity.
You write as if you are trying to make me think that even what I write makes no sense, on top of trying to

even convince others of it.
What a bunch of thieves you are.
Always trying to steal my work, and abuse the situation and trying to make me crazy and expect I can't

even defend myself.

Welcome to the front line.

I don't think I would be surprised to get this come back to you since you are the ones suggesting it in

the first place.



What other threads have you turned or tried to turn into nonsense and gotten closed?

It seems to me that it's just because you don't want me to post on the forums without getting deleted or

banned or other.

Why should anything you post that I would mention make no sense and you would not even understand what you

write?

Are you using some kind of text to audio input system?

If so, that is not funny.


----++++====>>>>
:
Send me your appeal by EVE Mail if possible, before being blocked, so that I can and you can discuss it

via EVE Mail or other without stalling the input from others any further?



Why are you even trying to get credit out of this is beyond me.


How would you not find it offensive if I were to go in your threads or mention that your post are just

non-sense , and try to get them locked , banned, and who knows what else?
+ Why should the military police not be able to use those good military strategy (for 15+ pilots, even if

I did have 30?

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2016-03-20 18:46:52 UTC
You're just trying to waste my time

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-03-20 20:29:06 UTC
They see me trollin....they hatin...
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-03-20 20:49:34 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
They see me trollin....they hatin...

I was going to write something, but I was going to post some music from Fallout, but then no.

I have to get 2 GB RAM to get my system to run because more strategy would be hard to integrate without it and it only costs around $5 to $40.


Anyways, perhaps it would help if I referred a military strategy book with a list of 30 different types of military strategy sorted by relative categories ...

Each has it's own quirk and details as to how to achieve the military strategy objective with the related events (plus and minus and so on).

But I will not link it, since I don't own the right to it.

I really wouldn't be surprised if this thread was locked as well , since the attacks are so bad that CCP cannot and shouldn't have to deal with it.
That is caused by the posters themselves, who , trying to get away with permanent damage , couldn't care less if I would be banned, rightfully or not, or to entrap me into it.


I know I have to care for my family too, and , quite frankly, we don't have time for those kind of games anymore.

Just good luck on the front line, that's all I got to say.

I have to go to protect my own real life and relative ingame safety.



I not only make more money and security out of game, I also get more investing out of game.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#26 - 2016-03-20 20:55:15 UTC
Seriously I've been staring at this for over an hour and still have no idea what you're trying to say.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2016-03-20 21:23:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzz Orti
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Seriously I've been staring at this for over an hour and still have no idea what you're trying to say.

It is about getting valid input from posters about military strategies for 15+ Pilots.

As
The title
stated:
What Would Be a Good Military Strategy for 15+ Pilots?

'What would be' is a question asked to poster to positively interact with the forum and post info about it here.

Obviously no one wants to do it in this tread, in this Warfare & Tactics forums .


The question asked is about Good Military Strategy for 15+ Pilots.

Of course I could post about course of action to achieve moral warfare military objective with those 15+ pilots,
but what credit would it be to the posters if I was to post it all for them without them participating.

The problem seems to be that , since they only want to make me seem incoherent, negative, bad, wrong, and all kind of other evil, as the proper moral warfare to them,
that anything positive is not possible or should be deemed as damaging to them and so on.


I would have to pay medical services for them at this point.

Those that are healthy enough to participate seems to already be at war enough against me to be unable to make it worthwhile or Good enough to me.



I've been working on this for over 20 years myself.


I sincerely don't see the point to keep participating in this forum if the only way to be coherent is to hire others to post .
That would kind of defeat the purpose to create .
It would be like if I was handicapped and unable to think or some other physical attacks caused to me that would make me unable of the mental work required to post coherent meaning.

(Of course, one could argue that there was no such attacks against me aimed at making me look incoherent.
Unfortunately, it is already worst than that.
They don't seem to understand the consequences of their judgments against me , and why and how it makes it useless and impossible to support them afterward.)


It would lead to more reasons for me to have to disagree with the person I would have to pay to post on the forums for me, which others would decide as correct, no matter how bad or incoherent they are, just because of their judgement.

I also have to use my own discretion of judgment in associating with them,
and the best military strategy for my 15+ pilots is to not play, and not spend time on the forum and ,
not invest efforts to make 3rd party program or use any other licenses related to this.
It seems, your party will prefer to keep the code marginalized, or otherwise try to gain benefit while keeping me discredited.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#28 - 2016-03-21 17:18:54 UTC
Buzz Orti wrote:
You're just trying to waste my time



I believe you're doing that quite effectively on your own, sir.


Now, as to your OP (if I understand it correctly);


Make one pilot your combat main. He is your PVP god. I would then suggest that you pick an area of space in which you're interested in generating content. Take the other 14 pilots, and make them spies/lookouts in all of the surrounding systems.

Whilst difficult to control (that's a lot of alt-tabbing), you would be almost omniscient (at least in that area).


And for the record, I'm not trying to have your threads locked, Buzz - I have always been civil with you. What I am trying to do, however, is simply understand the necessity for such convoluted language on your part. That's all. :)

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2016-03-21 23:13:21 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Buzz Orti wrote:
You're just trying to waste my time



I believe you're doing that quite effectively on your own, sir.
...

Thanks for your late appeal offer anyways, but I just got invited to apply with 15 to 30 other pilots who are allied with 90 to 99+ other pilots...

I will try to read it when I have the time.

I was going to be home at 22:00 to 23:00 EVE Time and it's now past that by 53 minutes.

The part about wasting my time you claim that no one can understand, which you try me to cause to myself, are yet more good reasons for my family to want me away from this system, and communication.
Why should I even deal with people who "believe I'm doing that quite effectively on my own, sir", family and so on, even during my grand-mother's 100th anniversary May 21, no doubt?

I will not say you see, since it would be rude, as it is , no doubt, but I will say that, the fact that you would mention it, incite others to try to do the same too.
It is not only vain, inciting vanity, but it is also diminishing Good military strategy potential.
It is in fact, immoral and vicious in itself.

I will not mention other coercive changes to data and so on.

Like I said before, no matter what, there will always be waste of times intent from others, even to try to hold me liable for wasting my own time, since they wouldn't have enough to try to waste my time themselves.

Then, to try to say it is civil, after the fact is obviously not going to diminish the intentional damage and "waste of time".
It is in fact, something probably worst then a life long consequence.

What do you think you would do if I were to go in your thread and start attacking your expression with military propaganda about how negative you are, and even create negativity with evil intent, and lie it is good.
I do have responsibility to my family as well, not only to my corp, or even to my enemies.

One thing I will do is order the military strategy book from the library and post them here (or wherever they should be).

+
For instance , the new corp has an application form which is too long for me, so I couldn't apply yesterday.
But they are what I need, just will not accept me.

Other corps I approached also give me the same cold treatment, stating that I made them look bad.
I proposed them to send them spies since there was no possible communication, they were stuck in that "you are negative" loop.

Other corps offer WH space PVP and PI, but , I am looking to get info from null-sec sov POS.
Citadels already started.
This above info could go in a feedback thread on corporations, even though I do not know where it should go for sure yet.

Not only are forums trying to put words in my mouth, make me change my expression with false claims that it would be "better" or "good" to them' on ly to then attack their own changes and lie it is bad, and all the following negativity.
Where is the part of the negativity that engenders negativity are they missing?
At least, if they start a war, let it be a good positive one, with positive outcomes that will last forever.

I would record the blame, as always, and bring it back in the end.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.
Hawke Frost
#30 - 2016-03-22 00:37:03 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Seriously I've been staring at this for over an hour and still have no idea what you're trying to say.


I'd know a thing or two you could say, like "locked for trolling" and "post constructively".
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#31 - 2016-03-22 00:50:55 UTC
Quote:

Forum rules

5. Trolling is prohibited.

Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.

23. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.



As this thread isn't going anywhere, I'm going to close it.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
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