EVE General Discussion

Funny thing about morality is its often used as a yardstick to beat others with.

Even in RL there is no one single correct morality and New Eden is far from RL.

Correct.

Anyone that cheats the rules, RMTs or otherwise breaks the EULA is making some questionable choices, since they already agreed when they signed up for the game, not to do that.

Anyone playing within the rules? They are just playing a game and your morals are not somehow superior because you play differently to them. You are both playing the way the game allows and encourages.

No judgement on anyone as superior or inferior as a person in that situation.

Really, what are my views on morality other than, in a game where everyone is playing in the rules, no one style of play is superior to any other.

Where did I say cheating is ok in RL? and what are the other endless examples of how flawed my views are?

The awesome reason for your thread aside, so far it has very much been about judging others.

You hijacked your own thread. You could have easily just included the positive message and left it at that, without claiming morality is lost on some people, that some people don't have it within themselves to be decent because of how they play a game, or that you can personally list examples of how my own beliefs in morality and decency are flawed.

Like I said in my original reply, funny how morals are often used just to bash other people. But I guess that's how morals work. It's ok for those that believe they are superior to judge others because they play a video game differently, but perfectly within the rules and spirit of the game.

Doesn't have the same ring as "killing it forward" though.

EVE is designed to be harsh, unforgiving and cold. And being good, selfless and helpful despite of it is commendable. But if everyone was a new age hippie, EVE would be dull as bricks, so...

In swarmed the moral relativists whose limited experience revolves around movies they saw, or the nervous in the service confines of a narrow set of orders while confined to quarters. "There is no morality, unless we make it up ourselves."

In Do The Right Thing, Radio Raheem showed a set of brass knucks. One said "LOVE". One said "HATE," and it struck me. It's a sentence. Love hate. Or, hate love. But, no matter how you phrased it, it was negative. This of course put me in mind of the math; a positive plus a negative equals a negative.

Love hate. Hate love. Those are reactions. Positives are only reached by agreement, at least with regard to our own human behavior. There will be "knowledgeable" hot shots who'll take this opportunity to bleat how "EVE is ... blah blah blah" NOT a place where we show our "REAL" selves, as though some spirit (which we don't believe exists) takes over our keyboards and punches all these dastardly keys despite our best intentions.

But, you know, and they know, and we all know (so don't kid yourselves or US) that when you do dirty, be it in a game, or in other endeavors in life, you do dirty. You aren't excused. You aren't immune because it's a "game." You chose to do dirty. You did dirty. If you can't live with that, or people knowing that about you...simple solution...don't do dirty.

A guy whom shall remain nameless, bought me eight (8) Arbalest Heavy Missile Launchers when I was but a noob. We met in noob corp. He was a helpful guy. Is a helpful guy. Not a fairy guy. Not a carebear. Just a helpful guy. I, in turn, have been helpful to others. This guy's act to me doesn't put any good in me. I'd do it just the same. Yet, when I think highly of someone it's a lot more beneficial than when I think poorly of someone. I have this memory to recall. It's a good thing.

Thanks for this thread, OP.

I travel under a black flag and let fury be my guide.
People can roleplay when they are comfortable, but under any pressure they revert to type.
This is why i will encourage my kids to play EvE when they hit their teens because of the relatively painless way it can teach you real lessons about trust and risk.
I've been described as helpful and friendly, yet i shoot nerds and even the odd blue, am i a bad person?

This thread is so eye-wateringly pretentious it's unbelievable, but this quote is a piece of cod-superhero narrative par excellence.



e: The cluster presumably always needs more White Knights though, so good luck with this thread :)

I like this post actually. Very true.

But why? What is the whole purpose of this? Other than to make yourself a target of the people you think are terrible human beings.

Good things do happen in this game. Do we really need a thread of feel good stories to get warm fuzziness though?