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Loki tackle and scout fit
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Ligraph
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-03-19 22:34:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ligraph
Been working on a fleet for fleet tackle, scouting, and scanning. Decided to go with Loki over the other t3s because 37.5km webs is awesome.

Armor tank is decent (35k), I can hit 3.5k m/s which should be decent for speed tanking. Although signature goes though the roof so idk. I was tempted to try to fit a armor repair but decided it wasn't worth it.

Fit has two long points and a near point, so I should be able to hold almost anything.

Warping is a bit slow, but I couldn't find room for a warp accelerator.

The fit is also cap stable with everything running.

Feedback requested.

PYFA pic

Fit:
[Loki, Loki scout and tackle]

Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Syndicate 800mm Steel Plates
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

500MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Warp Disruptor
True Sansha Warp Disruptor
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
True Sansha Stasis Webifier

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier


Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#2 - 2016-03-20 04:51:00 UTC
Ligraph wrote:
Been working on a fleet for fleet tackle, scouting, and scanning. Decided to go with Loki over the other t3s because 37.5km webs is awesome.

Armor tank is decent (35k), I can hit 3.5k m/s which should be decent for speed tanking. Although signature goes though the roof so idk. I was tempted to try to fit a armor repair but decided it wasn't worth it.

Fit has two long points and a near point, so I should be able to hold almost anything.

Warping is a bit slow, but I couldn't find room for a warp accelerator.

The fit is also cap stable with everything running.

Feedback requested.

PYFA pic

Fit:
[Loki, Loki scout and tackle]

Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Syndicate 800mm Steel Plates
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

500MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Warp Disruptor
True Sansha Warp Disruptor
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
True Sansha Stasis Webifier

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier


Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603



With a fit like that, I wouldn't post it on the forums.....then I would be worst scout ever, I would be way to worried everything I found would be bait.

Then again if you got it like that, more power to you. realistically I would use an interceptor, or a cov ops, and try to stick to one task rather than try to do both.
Ligraph
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-03-20 05:06:23 UTC
pushdogg wrote:


With a fit like that, I wouldn't post it on the forums.....then I would be worst scout ever, I would be way to worried everything I found would be bait.


If that because I posted it on the forums and so would be a known scout? If so its no problem cause I'm 100+ days out from even being able to sit in a Loki.

If not, why?

pushdogg wrote:

Then again if you got it like that, more power to you. realistically I would use an interceptor, or a cov ops, and try to stick to one task rather than try to do both.


Is that because of cost/benefit? It is expensive, but shouldn't be more than a couple of days of grinding rats in null.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#4 - 2016-03-20 05:52:06 UTC
I'd dump the second warp disrupter and add a second web. If you want lots of disrupters, Arazu is a better way to go.

And I'd find a way to get some DPS in those high slots.
If your target isn't at least half dead before the cavalry arrives, he will probably kill you before he goes down.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#5 - 2016-03-20 05:52:17 UTC
Ligraph wrote:
pushdogg wrote:


With a fit like that, I wouldn't post it on the forums.....then I would be worst scout ever, I would be way to worried everything I found would be bait.


If that because I posted it on the forums and so would be a known scout? If so its no problem cause I'm 100+ days out from even being able to sit in a Loki.

If not, why?

pushdogg wrote:

Then again if you got it like that, more power to you. realistically I would use an interceptor, or a cov ops, and try to stick to one task rather than try to do both.


Is that because of cost/benefit? It is expensive, but shouldn't be more than a couple of days of grinding rats in null.


It makes me a cringe to think that a couple days grinding rats (I play roughly 5-10 hours a week) could be gone the first gate I jumped through.

At 100 days out...I wouldn't even be thinking fits. Let alone asking about one. Try scouting for a fleet before you decide that a t3 cruiser is going to be a good option.


pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#6 - 2016-03-20 06:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: pushdogg
RavenPaine wrote:
I'd dump the second warp disrupter and add a second web. If you want lots of disrupters, Arazu is a better way to go.

And I'd find a way to get some DPS in those high slots.
If your target isn't at least half dead before the cavalry arrives, he will probably kill you before he goes down.


I'm betting nothing will fit, with the 500mn microwarp drive.

Can someone other than myself please say that fit is ridiculous. I'm not letting my scout, scout for a fleet....with the align time of a carrier. I've never fc'd and I would never let this ship in a fleet.
Ligraph
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-03-20 06:10:10 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
I'd dump the second warp disrupter and add a second web. If you want lots of disrupters, Arazu is a better way to go.

And I'd find a way to get some DPS in those high slots.
If your target isn't at least half dead before the cavalry arrives, he will probably kill you before he goes down.


I'm betting nothing will fit, with the 500mn microwarp drive.

Can someone other than myself please say that fit is ridiculous. I'm not letting my scout, scout for a fleet....with the align time of a carrier. I've never fc'd and I would never let this ship in a fleet.


With the MWD off it has a 7s align. But it would be pretty ridiculous for a scout to have 30s align...
Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#8 - 2016-03-20 11:30:07 UTC
1. **** align time(yeah, 7s is ****)
2.**** agility, if you want to fight in a straigh line why not, but otherwise you won't even be able to hold point since you'll run our of your range
3. **** warp speed.
4.Ridiculously expensive
5. You'll get dunked by a svipul

Buy an inty
Ligraph
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-03-20 18:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ligraph
Lucy Callagan wrote:
1. **** align time(yeah, 7s is ****)
2.**** agility, if you want to fight in a straigh line why not, but otherwise you won't even be able to hold point since you'll run our of your range
3. **** warp speed.
4.Ridiculously expensive
5. You'll get dunked by a svipul

Buy an inty


Meh, I like being able to land on someone cloaked after I scanned them down, but... I think you convinced me.

How would something like this work?
[Stiletto, Stiletto Tackle]

Capacitor Flux Coil II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Microwarpdrive II
Caldari Navy Warp Disruptor
Khanid Navy Warp Scrambler
Stasis Webifier II

150mm Light AutoCannon II
150mm Light AutoCannon II
Prototype 'Poncho' Cloaking Device I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603


And maybe use a covert ops for WHs.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#10 - 2016-03-20 19:44:29 UTC
Ligraph wrote:
Lucy Callagan wrote:
1. **** align time(yeah, 7s is ****)
2.**** agility, if you want to fight in a straigh line why not, but otherwise you won't even be able to hold point since you'll run our of your range
3. **** warp speed.
4.Ridiculously expensive
5. You'll get dunked by a svipul

Buy an inty


Meh, I like being able to land on someone cloaked after I scanned them down, but... I think you convinced me.

How would something like this work?
[Stiletto, Stiletto Tackle]

Capacitor Flux Coil II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

5MN Microwarpdrive II
Caldari Navy Warp Disruptor
Khanid Navy Warp Scrambler
Stasis Webifier II

150mm Light AutoCannon II
150mm Light AutoCannon II
Prototype 'Poncho' Cloaking Device I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603


And maybe use a covert ops for WHs.



The cloaking device kills your lock time, and you can't warp cloaked.

I think you should try both tasks individually. Then formulate a fit or plan.

I think you are trivializing two of the more difficult tasks in PvP....warping in cloaked on someone you have just probed Is good and all, but you realize that in null/low I will have a bounce SS. And you will land in time to see me warp off....or uncloak and wish you could lock me while I moonwalk off grid.

There is a reason no one has ever tried the fits you are posting.....
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2016-03-20 21:56:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
That Loki is ridiculous,

100mn fits are done with AFTERBURNERS so they effectively can't be scrammed and you need some serious webs to hold them down, a micro warp drive will shut off the second someone with a scram or a hic sees you,
At which point you have a ridiculous prop mod that you have compromised almost everything els on the hull to fit that doesn't work.

C-type AB might work IF you know your way around a t3 (which you clearly don't).

Essentially they are ****ing op if fit to do two specific things ,
those generally being a) tank Jesus Christ himself and b) something else.
If you try and cram too much onto one they tend to result in hilariously expensive explosions.

Edit: dude ... That interceptor makes my teeth itchy ... Don't fly that.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#12 - 2016-03-20 22:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucy Callagan
What you should get rig off:
-no cloaks on inties as they reduce you scan res and make you miss targets on gate.
-no web, unless it's a specially designed solo fit, which is clearly not the case here
-you need tank if you don't want to get blapped instantly off the field

What you need:
-you need tank if you don't want to get blapped instantly off the field
-You need a nos to keep scram/rep on targets that could eventually neut you
-you need a little bit of dps to get rid of drones
-Ionic on armor inties and sensor amps on shield ones for the lock range. Otherwise you're likely to have more point range than lock range.

You like pimp don't you ? I can't blame that :

[Malediction]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating

Coreli A-Type 5MN Microwarpdrive
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
True Sansha Warp Scrambler

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Energy Nosferatu II

Small Ionic Field Projector II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II


Mid-grade Snake Alpha
Mid-grade Snake Beta
Mid-grade Snake Gamma
Mid-grade Snake Delta
Mid-grade Snake Epsilon
Mid-grade Snake Omega
Zainou 'Gypsy' Long Range Targeting LT-803

The ionic rig and targeting implant are really important, especially if flow with links.

Another completly ret4rded fit with links and snakes (8km/s and 42m sig). No scram so it's more disigned to be tanky and can face the RLM menace.
[Stiletto, Stiletto fit]

Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Overdrive Injector System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

True Sansha Warp Disruptor
Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender
Coreli A-Type 5MN Microwarpdrive
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
[Empty High slot]

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Small Ionic Field Projector II
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2016-03-20 22:56:31 UTC
I will give him a cookie for each of those bullet points he doesn't have to google.

Serious advice for the op,
Ask these questions in new citizens questions and answers.

The regulars there will have considerably more patience for this madness and link you the resources to learn at an appropriate rate.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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