EVE General Discussion

As I pointed some months ago:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6270652#post6270652



This year 2016 February has peaked 6,000 peak-concurrent-players below 2015's peak in January, and since February is traditionally the peak month of the year, 2016 hasn't started on a good footing in terms of server population.

This, bear in mind, despite the stimulus being applied to the game, from SP trading to PvE events like Blood Harvest, Frostline or The Hunt.

People is quitting the game faster than they are replaced. Has been like this for many years. And nothing in the works will stop it.

PvE is killing EVE one player at a time. I've been saying this since Incarna, whose 5th anniversary will be next June. All efforts made to keep PvP alive are wasted when EVE loses 2 PvErs for each PvPr retained.

I don't know where's the point of no return, when population becomes too low to be sustainable. At 6,000 PCU per year, probably will take several years more to reach it, unless there's some kind of landslide.

But so far, with PCU data in hand, EVE is not going anywhere good.

All he usal voices from the old thread are welcome here. I will be glad to listen to your excuses to explain why we are 6,000 PCU below last year, which was 12,000 PCU below 2014...

...why does it matter?

Let's all sing the Doom Song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY278K4ljWs

But he just throws PVE in there without any argument or proof...

Everyone knows the real reason is climate change, Star Citizen and Obama. Oh, and goons of course.

I don´t think reposting what's basically the same 'doom and gloom' messege will achieve much. Perhaps make some suggestions to the sort of content that could change stuff.

I would like to know how you can be sure that it's PVE (I assume you want 'more') that's driving away people. During the period you mention most changes have actually been 'nerfs' to different forms of non-consensual PvP so if anything it seems to be nerfs to PvP that's driving people away.

Consolidation of alts.

Extract from alts.

Inject into main.

Chill, chicken little

Didn't I just read somewhere that CCP made a profit last year? Is that true or did I make that up? I think it's true.. anyway...

if it is true, wouldn't that fact ALONE refute this garbage argument that average PCU somehow equates to quality gaming business?

If CCP is a business (she is, right?) and EVE is the product - and the business makes a profit (goal of business) - then doesn't that suggest that CCP = a quality gaming business?

while it is true that CCP may not be making money (goal of business) in the manner that you (customer of business) might prefer, it remains true that they are 'succeeding'.

[ There is a secret message contained herein...The True Voice of the Customer is spoken with something other than Words]

Guess what, PVE will never be fun or great in this game.
The reason for this is the game mechanics. Hitting 3 buttons and then waiting for rats to die is not fun gameplay.
The only way to make PVE remotely fun is to make the game "twitch based". And that is not going to happen.

My suggestion is to go play a PVE centric game with game mechanics that support it.
EVE will never have it.

PCU = peak concurrent users = people online at the same time. So no.