Missions & Complexes

Im hoping for a couple of awnsers too some questions about the lv 4 F.W missions,
but first ill post my (no doubt) bad fit for the Ishtar, im running the missions for gallente, against caldari

please go crazy and tell me what i need too replace, if you suggest i replace some thing please write the full name of the module so i can understand what it is

this is my fit

2x Medium anti-Thermal screen reinforcer lv 2

1x drone link augmentor lv 2

1x 50mn quad lif restrained microwarpdrive

2x sensor booster lv2 with a targeting script range

1x medium shield booster

3x drone damage amplifier lv 2

1x damage controle lv 2

2x warpcore stabs (save's my ship's every day)

in my drone bay i have 10x wasp lv 2 and a couple hornets lv 2,

i can also use sentry's lv 2, i have 8.7mill sp in drone skills

the first problem is range locking and drone's die''ing, without the sensor boosters i cant get a lock under 54km, which is a problem, and means i have to get in closer then i want, i all ready lost around 200 or so drone's doing the missions :) i even bumped up my drone durability too v to try and get them to live longer, if tryed to clear the room but again my drone's die way too quik, against missions like ''Halt the invasion" it is imposible,

the second problem is tanking the rats, i dont want to buy a very expensive (c?) type pithum for i will lose the ship in time, my resits is for my shields are
13% EM /85% thermal /87% kinetic / 57% explosive,
but i find my self often going in to hull after 30sec / 1min of doing the missions,

the third problem is cap, i run dry after only 15 cycle's of the rep and im forced of the field, i overload the cycle's too keep my self on the field longer, i thought about switching a module for a cap recharger but that will not fix the incoming damage, which gets overwelming the longer the fight last,

so tips on doing the missions beter will be much apreciated,

im not in it for the isk im in it for the fun and trills of doing the missions, but that does not meen i will splurdge a bill on a ship that i will lose,

also, is it possible to get the missions with out having too travel 15 jumps too the various agents,

p.s i know my english is bad so please forgive me.

i have almost every drone skill too v, im not a skill buyer im a old time miner, who drained his mining crew (do i get Code points for that :P) and now like gevlon goblin there farming SP.

my resists are "good" i run only against caldari rats so the thermal and kinetic is what i need.

i dont want my ships too look like a Loot piñata and have every neut going after me, it hard enough dodging the gate camps, and the stalker every now and then,
in that regard thank god for the new buddy list, good work ccp

Question: how have you crammed six midslot modules onto it?

"2x Medium anti-Thermal screen reinforcer lv 2" are shield rigs, not mid slot modules

@op: you warp core stab kills your locking range, use them to travel, but in your mission, maybe deploy a mobile depot to refit to something more useful (and keep your MD deployed during your mission so that you can refit them quickly to gtfo ?)
That way you can maybe replace your sebo with shield extender to have more buffer?

edit:
but normally ishtar is better armor tanked (replace DDAs with WarpCoreStab for travelling)
put 1 armor repairer+1armor buffer +DCU and replace the rigs?)
also your probably want to speed tank ... (orbit the mobile depot?)

edit2: also always kill npc smaller than your drone first

(i dont do fw mission so take advice with care)

I would also advise you consider removing the MWD (maybe use it to travel and use the mwd/cloak trick for more safety).

Replace it with an afterburner to help sig tank.

Now, once you remove the stabs, MWD, and armor tank the thing, you should have fewer issues.

In theory, your fit would look something like this (in site, use a travel fit otherwise. Also use EFT to make sure it works for you).

Lows

Medium armor rep II
thermal hardener
kinetic hardner
drone damage amp x 3

Mids

Cruiser sized afterburner (I think it is 10mn)
target painter or ecm burst (will help with rat aggro)
cap rechargers and/or drone nav computer (your choice)

Highs
Drone link aug
cloak (could be offline while in site if needed)

Rigs
EFT to find the better combo, but I would think armor pumps for resists or nano-pumps for more reps.

I do FW lvl 4 missions as well. I fly for Caldari against Gallente so I encounter a lot of dampening of target range. I imagine you get jams?

First, FW are always in "enemy" territory. Here is a link to a you tube vid that explains a means of obtaining and running the missions. This is an older video from the Caldari perspective however there is still a lot of useful information even today.

Video

The entire video is interesting but the ship specific information is now out of date. The first section is general information about FW missions and payouts. The second section is about stealth bomber fits. Section three begins at the 7:21 mark. I strongly recommend this section.

I recommend two fits for your Ishtar. One for travel one for the mission.

Travel fit:

Use the Cloak+MWD trick. Here is an even older video explaining how to use it. I like this one the best as he explains it very well. Please note, the mechanics of this trick have not changed. This is not an exploit; it is a clever use of the game mechanics that CCP has no problems with.

Cloak+MWD trick

How you fit your ship for travel is entirely up to you.

Mission fit:

In every mission system make a safe spot. Deploy your mobile depot and refit into your mission fit. Using a mobile depot and carrying the required modules to refit into is necessary and it also allows for the player to carry replacement drones as well. Your drones are typically in the drone bay but you can carry extras in cargo and move them into the drone bay as required.

The AI has become very aggressive to drones. You may wish to consider a remote repper with your mission fit to repair your drones as you run the missions. Also, Caldari damage is kinetic primary and thermal secondary. You can easily get 90%+ resists to kinetic. You should do this.

I do not use the Ishtar but something like this might work for your missions:

[Ishtar, Ishtar fit]

Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Kinetic Membrane II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Small Remote Hull Repairer II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I


Warden II x5
Wasp II x5
Hornet II x5
Vespa II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hornet II x5

Assuming all level 5 skills, your targeting range is 100km. Your drone control range is also 100km. Your armor resists to kinetic is 92.7%. If you do get jammed a lot consider replacing a Omnidirectional Tracking Link II with a Sensor Booster and use an ECCM script.

When you land at the mission, burn away from the mission objective. Kill all the elite frigates first. Secondly focus on the mission objective. The sooner you can complete the mission the sooner you can refit into your cloak.

I hope this helps.

You can solo these missions in a VNI with less tank than those fits.

Learn how to mwd+ cloak warp to make it through the warzone. Lose the stabs. They hurt your targeting range, which is key to this fit working. Otherwise use a tengu. You need lock range and drone activation to at least 110km. Forget the rigs, they hurt fitting oh such a tight CPU sentry boat. Use two DLA's in the highs. The rest I'll keep to myself if you don't have a kill board that proves you're not another null sec alt sucking the life out of FW.

Put in an app or message me in-game and I'll show you how to run them if you promise to use your gains to contribute to the actual war zone and fighting.