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[FDU] [GMVA] Request for information on Caldari incursion in Akidagi

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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#41 - 2016-03-18 07:27:47 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:


What I would really, really like to know is what happened to the Executor in Hakonen. Hakonen? I believe that's right.


Probably driving a forklift for Kuvakei at this point given he disappeared in an active Nation incursion.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#42 - 2016-03-18 10:42:13 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:
In other words, I tried to promote PEACE. I must be pretty terrible at being a "warlord".

If you'd want peace, you would never step your foot into Black Rise and other Caldari territories, including Akidagi.

As to further point out your lies about "peace", I'd like to remind you about your attempts of piracy in another Caldari system - Okkamon. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=418007 Luckily, your operation has epically failed and despite couple ships your pirating raids have managed to destroy, the Okkamon never was blockaded, neither for State military vessels, nor civilians.

Your propaganda is abnormal and illogical. That's why it's better to just shoot down gallentean occupants instead of trying to negotiate with them.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#43 - 2016-03-18 11:38:08 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Gosakumori Noh wrote:


What I would really, really like to know is what happened to the Executor in Hakonen. Hakonen? I believe that's right.


Probably driving a forklift for Kuvakei at this point given he disappeared in an active Nation incursion.


Tibus Heth is in Upper Hell, the Hell of the Righteous Non-Chosen, the only Hell where God does not pour out pain and suffering upon those living there. Here, Tibus Heth continues to lead his people to feats of greatness, only occasionally they look with regret towards the gates of Paradise, ever denied them for they were non-Chosen.
Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#44 - 2016-03-18 12:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Raholan
Julianus Soter wrote:
Lucas Raholan wrote:
Julianus Soter wrote:


As loyal supporters and defenders of the Federation, the Villore Accords and her allies request a formal explanation from the Federation Navy why it was a Caldari task force, not a Federal one, that intercepted this convoy, and why the Federation allows the Caldari State to police territory that has been won through rights of liberation and conquest.


Thoun Gaterau wrote:
I will also add, that due to the simply astonishing level of incompetence and unprofessionalism, the Federal Administration will regard you as incapable of command from here forward, and will defer our communications to other loyalist parties who serve in the Federation's best interests.

If Villore Accords seek to elect a replacement leader who exhibits competence and reliability that the Federation can count on, we will reconsider this position.

source: Offical response to FOI request from Soter himself

Tell me again about how you are a loyal representative of the Gallente Federation, in fact the last public communication from the Federal government was to call you out as exhibiting as quoted above 'astonishing level of incompetence and unprofessionalism

Ms Priano is correct in her observations that you are nothing more then a pandering warlord, and given you clearly failed to prevent some freighters crossing your territory nor the Caldari response, coupled with your failed 'Blockade' also rather evidently not a very good one it seems. I suggest you take yourself somewhere more suited to your obvious lack of talent, backbone or professionalism. May I suggest Callie's infamous Red Light district I hear you heathens pay a pretty penny for 'war heroes'



Oh dear me, this one made me laugh. An Imperial Loyalist references a Black Eagles operative as a reliable source against me. I take it as a badge of honor that the Imperials, the slaver scum of the Cluster, hate me so bitterly.

My opinions regarding the Black Eagles are well known. I believe them to be a cancer eating away at the heart of Gallente democracy. Their vindictive and utterly meaningless messages against me after I revealed the military escalation between the Minmatar Republic and Gallente Federation was in no doubt directly related to this.

Of course, if we investigate that incident more in depth, you will note, I transmitted the intelligence about Federation Navy deployments to the general public, in order to avoid a direct military confrontation and encourage a peaceful solution to the situation. In other words, I tried to promote PEACE. I must be pretty terrible at being a "warlord".

Honestly, the sheer depth of vitriol and ravings from the minions of the tyrannies of New Eden is quite difficult to wade through with my responsibilities as an alliance Executor. I'll respond to constructive comments and feedback, and will read the rest as a source of endless amusement.


Forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of Gallente law but I'm sure broadcasting operational sensitive information regarding military deployments - information usually classified - amounts to treason, If I received classified information from the Imperial Navy in trust and proceeded to ejaculate it all over the IGS I'm pretty sure the MIO would have had me shot.

I heard Khanid enjoys his Gallente, maybe I can sell you to him once you fall from that high horse of yours

Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#45 - 2016-03-18 13:38:29 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
John Revenent wrote:
Oh and do remember its called occupation, far from the likes of 'conquest' or 'liberation'.

John!
Your alive!
I am delighted.
Julianus rampaging about IGS defending the honor of our Federal Union and you being offended.
Its just like old times... almost.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#46 - 2016-03-18 15:15:14 UTC
Lucas Raholan wrote:

Forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of Gallente law but I'm sure broadcasting operational sensitive information regarding military deployments - information usually classified - amounts to treason, If I received classified information from the Imperial Navy in trust and proceeded to ejaculate it all over the IGS I'm pretty sure the MIO would have had me shot.

I heard Khanid enjoys his Gallente, maybe I can sell you to him once you fall from that high horse of yours


This is politics, not law. GMVA as an organization is, to put it lightly, not supportive of the Black Eagles as a general rule. Some would argue that the whole organization is an extralegal blight on the Federal Union. When the FIO decided it was going to recruit capsuleers for an insane and illegal military escalation against our Minmatar allies, Soter blew the whistle on their catastrophically incompetent plan of action. With the specific intent of preventing such and escalation.

Hilariously, the usual suspects who grandstand against the Federation on the IGS suddenly have a deep concern for the sanctity of Black Eagles OpSec.

From my perspective, I'd rather Thoun Gaterau call me "traitor" than "friend."
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2016-03-18 15:27:03 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

I'm sure not Every Amarr follower don't care. Maybe I'm just fooling myself but I won't stoop to that level even if I'm wrong. The only Amarr capsuleers posting here are from PIE, a group who I would gladly kill in a heart beat, just as I expect from them. What else would you expect from religious fanatics? God's and spirits even if they would do such a thing as gun down our civilians, I wouldn't because I won't stoop to that level. I'm better than that. If they infact did that just shows what their horrible religion teaches and why those who can't act as rational humans must be eradicated from this cluster. For that I both pity and enjoy making their capsuleers send their condolences to their crews dearly departed, even if I die in the process.


Well, it seems there is evidence to support your stance...

Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
There is no such thing as a pirate civilian, only one that might be arrested, or one that must be neutralized.



Deitra Vess wrote:
As far as what Ms. Ruil said, I said the exact same thing and fully agree with her. They were horribly incompetent and had what happened coming to them. Though I will ask, I I were to fly a freighter into your AO and you had a fleet in waiting, would you capture or kill? I know I'm a criminal, that's why I don't even go to the planet I was born on anymore. I'm a criminal for killing those who truely deserved it without being in the militia. If Concord wants my head, good luck to them. I'm not stupid enough to serve it on a silver platter to them...



If that pile of dead rabbits has shown us anything it's that the State, the Empire, the Federation and the Republic don't care about following "rules of engagement" any more than we do. They might talk nice about honor, or God's Will or liberty, but at the end of the day, they're just like us; vicious, mad, desperate bastards who would sell their granny for a percentage.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#48 - 2016-03-18 16:23:04 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCMYIqsiUFo

Oh, look. The Guristas were up to no good. What a surprise.

Now please, can we all stop sucking up to criminals and do the right thing by destroying the bastards?

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#49 - 2016-03-18 16:25:10 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
From my perspective, I'd rather Thoun Gaterau call me "traitor" than "friend."


Where can I send you a fruit basket?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#50 - 2016-03-18 17:07:46 UTC
I personally have found Gallente Naval vessels within Caldari space, be it lowsec or highsec, on multiple occasions. If I'm not wrong, your torturers have entire FACILITIES within State space housing prisoners of war; facilities set to detonate upon detection of intrusion, thereby killing said prisoners of war.

Do tell me, do those violate the CEWPA?
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#51 - 2016-03-18 17:14:35 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
I personally have found Gallente Naval vessels within Caldari space, be it lowsec or highsec, on multiple occasions. If I'm not wrong, your torturers have entire FACILITIES within State space housing prisoners of war; facilities set to detonate upon detection of intrusion, thereby killing said prisoners of war.

Do tell me, do those violate the CEWPA?


I'm fairly certain they violate the Federal Charter and Constitution to start with, and just about every tenant of civilized behavior to boot. Did I mention that GMVA aren't fans of the Black Eagles?
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#52 - 2016-03-18 17:17:52 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Oh, look. The Guristas were up to no good. What a surprise.

I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Rook Moray
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2016-03-18 17:30:59 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCMYIqsiUFo

Oh, look. The Guristas were up to no good. What a surprise.

Now please, can we all stop sucking up to criminals and do the right thing by destroying the bastards?





Told ya f*ckers that this sh*t wasn't over with.

“When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.” -Guristas Proverb.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#54 - 2016-03-18 17:39:18 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:


If that pile of dead rabbits has shown us anything it's that the State, the Empire, the Federation and the Republic don't care about following "rules of engagement" any more than we do. They might talk nice about honor, or God's Will or liberty, but at the end of the day, they're just like us; vicious, mad, desperate bastards who would sell their granny for a percentage.



Well, won't hear me argue that point.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#55 - 2016-03-18 17:45:01 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
I personally have found Gallente Naval vessels within Caldari space, be it lowsec or highsec, on multiple occasions. If I'm not wrong, your torturers have entire FACILITIES within State space housing prisoners of war; facilities set to detonate upon detection of intrusion, thereby killing said prisoners of war.

Do tell me, do those violate the CEWPA?


I'm fairly certain they violate the Federal Charter and Constitution to start with, and just about every tenant of civilized behavior to boot. Did I mention that GMVA aren't fans of the Black Eagles?

Indeed you had. But I'm not talking solely about Black Eagles.

Lets be real here. We both know both of our respective nations are operating in eachother's space. You know it, I know it, every capsuleer knows it. The War Powers Act is simply a civilized way for private capsuleers to wage a proxy war without completely destroying the peace between the Empires. It both gives insanely powerful individuals something to do, and it provides a war economy for our respective nations, while allowing them a smokescreen to conduct covert operations within said conflict zones with a good deal of deniability.

Gallente naval personnel no doubt have conducted strikes against Serpentis facilities, and probably Guristas facilities, in areas controlled by the State. On average, you lot hate the Serpentis only slightly less than you hate us. Here, the Caldari Navy have gone public with such an operation in a system that is well known for changing ownership on a monthly basis.

Does your glorious leader really need to make such a commotion about it?
Hikemi Korrado
Caldari Navy
Caldari State
#56 - 2016-03-18 18:17:19 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:
Recent news reports and Caldari Navy messages indicated that there was a significant engagement inside the Akidagi system, near the stargate leading to the Enaluri system, in the Ishaga constellation of Black Rise.

The Caldari Navy incorrectly identified this system as Caldari territory. Most recent strategic maps indicate quite the opposite is true, and the Gallente Federation has firm control over this and all adjacent low security space. This is an escalation that goes against the spirit of the Caldari State's participation in the EMERGENCY MILITIA WAR POWERS ACT, and will generate great concern amoung the Federal Defense Union private military contractors. We will take all necessary means to defend Federation territory from unwanted Caldari intrusions of this kind in the future.

As loyal supporters and defenders of the Federation, the Villore Accords and her allies request a formal explanation from the Federation Navy why it was a Caldari task force, not a Federal one, that intercepted this convoy, and why the Federation allows the Caldari State to police territory that has been won through rights of liberation and conquest.

The Caldari State has seen fit to release an unclassified press release regarding the subject. I see utterly no reason why the Gallente Federation, the greatest democracy in New Eden, must remain silent on this issue.

Regards,

Julianus Soter
Executor, Villore Accords
CEO, Moira corporation.


Soter,

Given that the press conference that sparked your comments was handled by myself on behalf of the Caldari Navy after requests from The Scope and Echelon Entertainment for comment on the contact that occurred, I'm quite happy to offer response after conferring with my counterparts in the State Protectorate.

While you may feel that your organization has some form of claim on the region of Black Rise and its systems due to the EMWPA, I can assure you that while "control" of some systems may be contested, the sovereignty of Black Rise and its constituent systems remains firmly in hands of the Caldari State. A change of control does not equal a change of citizenship for those who were raised in the State, and as such the Caldari Navy will continue to operate within Black Rise, protecting citizens of the State from aggression at the hands of the Federal Defence Union.

I will also offer warning in advance that it's very unlikely the Federation Navy's office of press will indulge your request. This is for two reasons.

Firstly, FEDCAF have no jurisdiction in Black Rise and act with limited power under the same legislation that affords the FDU limited freedom to operate in designated areas of Caldari sovereign space. This legislation is the EMWPA, to which you have only limited access as a commercial pilot and private contractor in order to explain your rights and limitations under Interstellar Law.

Secondly, you were personally disavowed by the leadership of the Federal Intelligence Office on the grounds of incompetence of command a little under three years ago. Need I say more about your level of competence when it comes to military matters, or those of strategic importance?

That said, this type of response from the Caldari Navy is rare and in reality, is catered more for those loyal to the State. My message to those loyal to the Caldari people is simple:

The Caldari Navy stands with you, shoulder to shoulder, as a shield for the people of the State. You have our most profound gratitude for your selfless defense of Caldari borders, and your actions in the space beyond where Interstellar Law limits our reach and our ability to protect those outside our jurisdiction.

While the Federal Defence Union sit idle on their laurels, beating their chests, demanding statements and pushing propaganda, let your weapon be swift and decisive action, the same as the Caldari Navy's in Akidagi this week.


As for yourself Soter, I'll leave you to your baseless crowing here on the Intergalactic Summit. Given your almost legendary record of incompetence of command, I'm sure the rest of the Federal Defence Union will agree with me that this is where you belong, firmly away from any form of environment in which your idiocy could cause actual harm to competent military personnel.

In the mean time, I'll be back on the front line.

Regards,

Hikemi Korrado
Wing Commander
37th 'Octopus' Squadron
Caldari Navy
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#57 - 2016-03-18 18:22:34 UTC
Hikemi Korrado wrote:
Julianus Soter wrote:
Recent news reports and Caldari Navy messages indicated that there was a significant engagement inside the Akidagi system, near the stargate leading to the Enaluri system, in the Ishaga constellation of Black Rise.

The Caldari Navy incorrectly identified this system as Caldari territory. Most recent strategic maps indicate quite the opposite is true, and the Gallente Federation has firm control over this and all adjacent low security space. This is an escalation that goes against the spirit of the Caldari State's participation in the EMERGENCY MILITIA WAR POWERS ACT, and will generate great concern amoung the Federal Defense Union private military contractors. We will take all necessary means to defend Federation territory from unwanted Caldari intrusions of this kind in the future.

As loyal supporters and defenders of the Federation, the Villore Accords and her allies request a formal explanation from the Federation Navy why it was a Caldari task force, not a Federal one, that intercepted this convoy, and why the Federation allows the Caldari State to police territory that has been won through rights of liberation and conquest.

The Caldari State has seen fit to release an unclassified press release regarding the subject. I see utterly no reason why the Gallente Federation, the greatest democracy in New Eden, must remain silent on this issue.

Regards,

Julianus Soter
Executor, Villore Accords
CEO, Moira corporation.


Soter,

Given that the press conference that sparked your comments was handled by myself on behalf of the Caldari Navy after requests from The Scope and Echelon Entertainment for comment on the contact that occurred, I'm quite happy to offer response after conferring with my counterparts in the State Protectorate.

While you may feel that your organization has some form of claim on the region of Black Rise and its systems due to the EMWPA, I can assure you that while "control" of some systems may be contested, the sovereignty of Black Rise and its constituent systems remains firmly in hands of the Caldari State. A change of control does not equal a change of citizenship for those who were raised in the State, and as such the Caldari Navy will continue to operate within Black Rise, protecting citizens of the State from aggression at the hands of the Federal Defence Union.

I will also offer warning in advance that it's very unlikely the Federation Navy's office of press will indulge your request. This is for two reasons.

Firstly, FEDCAF have no jurisdiction in Black Rise and act with limited power under the same legislation that affords the FDU limited freedom to operate in designated areas of Caldari sovereign space. This legislation is the EMWPA, to which you have only limited access as a commercial pilot and private contractor in order to explain your rights and limitations under Interstellar Law.

Secondly, you were personally disavowed by the leadership of the Federal Intelligence Office on the grounds of incompetence of command a little under three years ago. Need I say more about your level of competence when it comes to military matters, or those of strategic importance?

That said, this type of response from the Caldari Navy is rare and in reality, is catered more for those loyal to the State. My message to those loyal to the Caldari people is simple:

The Caldari Navy stands with you, shoulder to shoulder, as a shield for the people of the State. You have our most profound gratitude for your selfless defense of Caldari borders, and your actions in the space beyond where Interstellar Law limits our reach and our ability to protect those outside our jurisdiction.

While the Federal Defence Union sit idle on their laurels, beating their chests, demanding statements and pushing propaganda, let your weapon be swift and decisive action, the same as the Caldari Navy's in Akidagi this week.


As for yourself Soter, I'll leave you to your baseless crowing here on the Intergalactic Summit. Given your almost legendary record of incompetence of command, I'm sure the rest of the Federal Defence Union will agree with me that this is where you belong, firmly away from any form of environment in which your idiocy could cause actual harm to competent military personnel.

In the mean time, I'll be back on the front line.

Regards,

Hikemi Korrado
Wing Commander
37th 'Octopus' Squadron
Caldari Navy


Commander, my congratulations on your successfull action against these Gurrista scum.

Ayallah, you were saying about Sovereignity?

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#58 - 2016-03-18 18:24:42 UTC
Hmm. If I didn't know better, I'd almost have to think there's someone behind both the Fed and State mouthpieces here with some serious gripe against Soter. I mean, it's not exactly a surprise since he's almost as bad a shitposter as I am, but this is too weird.

Not exactly too often you get to hear these flimsy mortals gang up on one guy like this.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#59 - 2016-03-18 18:29:26 UTC
Unless he is, infact, both an enemy of the State, and a complete embarresment to the Federation.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#60 - 2016-03-18 18:31:15 UTC
Oh my. Now I almost feel sorry for the man.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu