EVE General Discussion

We've done a lot of things and because of that mechanics have in the past been changed for the better. Weaponized boredom was always a terrible concept and you can hardly justify it becoming an actual game mechanic on the basis that we did it once.

All players have to spend their time doing things, that's still not a committed cost. If they lose the timer they don't go "oh no now I can't play for X days" they just go "oh well" and go ping another timer. Sov attacks should take an equal commitment from both sides. If the defender loses they will lose their space, if the attacker loses they should also lose something. Previously that was sunk costs, but now there are very few costs.

We obviously can handle it, that doesn't make it fun to do, but then it's fairly obvious you have no interest in the actual game mechanics being entertaining - probably because you're too busy RMTing to consider the entertainment value of games.

And mate, the mechanics will get changed. CCP have already declared entosis to be such a terrible mechanic that it's been rejected from citadels, and I imagine when citadels roll round and sov structure get merged in they will be based on the newer damage mitigation mechanics.

goons complaining about boredom and repetition ???

SUCK IT UP

well **** i'd like to get rid of concord. can we do that too?

Concord doesn't stop gankers, whats your point?

SAFETIES RED

PENISES ERECT

SMA REKT

That's what people are leaning toward though. They like these mechanics because it allows even single players to pose a realistic threat to big groups because they hate the idea of a big group. Nothing any big group does really has an impact on other players, before I rented then joined the Imperium big groups existed but had absolutely no bearing on my day to day gameplay, but some people just can't handle the fact that these groups exist and it's those people these mechanics cater to. Thankfully I think CCP knows it's bad play and entosis has a limited shelf life.

The issue I have with post like that is that it means I am not allowed to think as an individual. My though are supposedly always associated with my corp and alliance tag even if I have some position that would more than likely be against what the leaders think. I don't know if other corp/alliance have a line of post to follow or other stuff like that but I surely don't follow one and really hope you don't have to follow one either.

TBH, I'n not unhappy toward any player currently playing the game how it is right now. This stupidity is the name of the game now so anyone not playing it like that would be shooting himself in the foot for no reason. Using weaponized boredom is effective so of course people will use it. The real question to me is, why the hell they they make a system where such terrible strategy cans till be used.

When the CFC back in the previous SOV demonstrated that boredom could be a weapon, I though it was both a creative way of using the rules AND dropping a turd on the game in plain view. Doing it right now in the new way of doing it is just the same thing. It's using the rules how they are written while also shitting on the system. Both are just as bad imo.

I always though you should need a few cruiser or something like that personally since not being able to mount up a fleet like that essentially mean there is no way you could keep a system anyway so there is no point in letting you take one.

Depends on the sov. If someone is legitimately never in their space and has no intention of defending it, I don't even have a problem with one guy doing it, it should just take some level of commitment to it. Defenders have to respond because if they fail they lose their sov, so attackers should also have to put something on the line they risk losing if they lose or abandon the attack. It wouldn't have to be a sunk cost, but they should have something that means running away has consequences.

Like I said in an earlier post though, I think the way it's done is terrible. They should just scrap the additional mechanics and just base the owner of a system on all of the activity from the alliance in it, all mining, ratting, player kills, industry jobs, etc. That way to take someones space you have to actually live in it and people who have no interest in sov can't just ping and run away as they achieve nothing. True occupancy sov.

That system would be intresting actually and let other styles of gameplay hotdops and afk cloaking do a lot to fight a group while giving some counterplay options for the defenders. What would cause the fights though without timers I know form experiance i have to hit something to get a fight no one seems to just want to fight so got to force it.