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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#281 - 2012-01-11 23:03:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Scrapyard Bob
Nice changes to the group summary pages (including links and customizable region selection).

I think it's a toss-up whether the group summary pages should be sorted by name or TypeID. For the Minerals page, TypeID sorting makes more sense. But for a page like the following, sorting by name would make more sense:

http://www.evemarketeer.com/item/group_summary/265

The gripping hand options might be:

- TypeID sort in cases where there are less then 10 items in the group.
- Or a custom list of groups where they should be sorted by TypeID.
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#282 - 2012-01-11 23:22:18 UTC
Uh... the forums ate my previous post announcing the latest changes...

In any case, sorting by name is probably the way to go. People will start searching for a name as soon as they find that almost everything is sorted by name, and then a few groups with custom typeID sorting will probably not make much sense.

In any case, this page will be ported to the new table grid as well, which allows sorting of any kind. Just have to add a column for typeID.

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Domi Etymology
Violent Alternatives
#283 - 2012-01-12 01:50:01 UTC
Callean Drevus wrote:
Will loot their functions :P


Another site, if you're intereted

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28048&find=unread

EVEWalletAware, apparently was much loved. If you're looking for more functions to loot, might be worth a looksie. Also, since that program has stopped it's support, you might get more happy users for evemarketeer
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#284 - 2012-01-12 12:06:43 UTC
Yeah Blink I've long been planning to grab every fuction I could find in any market program anywhere. It's just that these other things keep comin up. My attention seems to swing to whatever is closest at the moment though.

A while back someone asked for something to calculate character value, and yesterday I suddenly felt like I could no longer do nothing with that request, simply because I was curious what my own value would be Smile. The page looks butt ugly though (My Characters).

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#285 - 2012-01-13 03:39:58 UTC
On the group summary pages; right now you have "buy" and "sell" in the drop down menu. Can this be expanded to:

http://www.evemarketeer.com/item/group_summary/1337/sell

"Sell (5% simulated buy)" - the default (or remember it if I have a login profile)
"Sell (lowest)"
"30-day average"
"Buy (5% simulated sell)"
"Buy (highest)" - the current default, which I always change to "sell (lowest)"

Which leads in to a question about the "item API". Now that you're starting to gather information on history, it might be useful to calculate for each item a 30-day average taking the order history within the past 30 days and giving us:

- average # units sold per day
- average price per item sold

i.e.

http://www.evemarketeer.com/api/info/34/xml/10000043/30d_units_per_day
http://www.evemarketeer.com/api/info/34/xml/10000043/30d_avg_price

That would give us an idea of how many units are changing hands per day over the past month in each region.
Trin Dainos
#286 - 2012-01-13 13:13:04 UTC
Is there a problem with "Best Items"? It seems a litle bit empty.....
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#287 - 2012-01-13 16:54:02 UTC
Can do! Was already planning to add the featur that remembers your settings, for all those kind of useful dropdowns that currently keep forgetting your settings :)

I've also been calculating that information (averages) for a while, it was just never exposed. I'll not include it in the info API though, since I'm never sure about history information, and always sure about what is currently in the Info API. Will do what I can about adding it though. Probably first a separate API.

Best items is sometimes a bit fickle, especially when a day has just begun. The interval shouldn't be too long though...

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Trin Dainos
#288 - 2012-01-13 17:05:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Trin Dainos
Callean Drevus wrote:
Can do! Was already planning to add the featur that remembers your settings, for all those kind of useful dropdowns that currently keep forgetting your settings :)

I've also been calculating that information (averages) for a while, it was just never exposed. I'll not include it in the info API though, since I'm never sure about history information, and always sure about what is currently in the Info API. Will do what I can about adding it though. Probably first a separate API.

Best items is sometimes a bit fickle, especially when a day has just begun. The interval shouldn't be too long though...


The list is empty for me since nearly 24h. In everey region....

EDIT: Online again...
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#289 - 2012-01-13 18:58:57 UTC
It might have had something to do with a completely different problem that the website was suffering from. Which is now fixed.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#290 - 2012-01-14 11:27:03 UTC
Top Uploads

EVE Central 581214
Scrapyard Bob 284262
oshua 133149

Those two have been doing most of the uploads in the entirety of the EVE universe for the past week. The EVE Central number is all the orders I retrieved from EVE Central, whether they were also uploaded to EMK or not.

This means that there (if these were both uploading to both sites) were only 163803 uploads that were uploaded uniquely to EVE Central. You've got to love multiple uploading ^^

Much respect to the people whom are doing this great service to the community by providing half of ALL the order data the market sites receive by themselves.

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Maeste Madeveda
The Spawning Pool
#291 - 2012-01-14 17:43:53 UTC
Both of them have multiple accounts who are running the scanner all day long. I only have one account so I can't have the same numbers. But during the last month, I managed to get to the 13th place of all time uploaders mostly by uploading in Heimatar. I believe everyone can have a influence particularly in they trade outside of the 4 main racial hubs who are updated regularly. It would be very good to have inputs on every Empire region. That should be our goal actually.

I like the new changes, some of them might need tweaking but I need to use them more before giving an appropriate feedback.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#292 - 2012-01-14 19:38:11 UTC
Depends on the day. I always try and make a point to update (3) regions at night (Heim/Metro/Sinq), but I'll sometimes run the scanner during the day for Heimatar/Sinq. Especially if the market is chaotic that week with lots of price swings through the day. I'll also sometimes float the 3rd alt's account around and hit up different regions.

We definitely need more people in places like Everyshore, Tash-Murkon, Domain, Citadel, Lonetrek, etc
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#293 - 2012-01-15 09:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Callean Drevus
Quote:
Both of them have multiple accounts who are running the scanner all day long. I only have one account so I can't have the same numbers.

I didn't mean to say other people didn't do their best Blink I just found it incredibly funny that two people are actually doing half of all the uploading Smile

UPDATE: Okey, nice, the website now remembers what you selected in the dropdown. More rememberations for other dropdowns coming soon Blink

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Endeavour Starfleet
#294 - 2012-01-15 11:34:17 UTC
This site just keeps getting better and better! Nice work!
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#295 - 2012-01-15 16:01:48 UTC  |  Edited by: TheSmokingHertog
Thx for all the grt efforts, the summeries of sales are great.

What do the green / red lines in "http://www.evemarketeer.com/trade/orders/personal" stand for?

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#296 - 2012-01-15 17:52:55 UTC
Also, maybe the "top uploaders" list should be done based off of credits rather then raw uploads.

Then you could award more/less credits in order to skew towards the behavior that you want. (Looking at the upload history, this already seems to happen somewhat. Sometimes I get 0.1 credits, sometimes I get 5-15 credits per upload item.)
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#297 - 2012-01-15 19:57:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Callean Drevus
The red green lines mean whether your orders are the lowest/highest in the region/station they are sold/bought in, depending on whether you selected station range, and whether they are buy or sell orders.

@Scrapyard: Can you possibly have missed the fact that the second table on the top uploaders page is sorted by amount of credits? The credit system works as you describe Blink, the minimum value is 0.1, for an upload which add absolutely nothing (see, repeat uploading), to 25 for an upload that redefines the stats for the entire region.

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#298 - 2012-01-15 20:51:19 UTC
Callean Drevus wrote:
@Scrapyard: Can you possibly have missed the fact that the second table on the top uploaders page is sorted by amount of credits? The credit system works as you describe Blink, the minimum value is 0.1, for an upload which add absolutely nothing (see, repeat uploading), to 25 for an upload that redefines the stats for the entire region.


Yes, but does that control who shows up on the front page? Or is that off of raw upload count?

(And thanks, I was curious how some of the scores were calculated.)
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#299 - 2012-01-16 06:55:41 UTC
Ah, true. I'm not entirely certain which one I use for the front page, but I assume it's upload count. Mostly because showing an arbitrary number of credits doesn't mean anything to the uninitiated. Maybe it can be changed to 'best uploaders', though not entirely certain how to make that comprehensible.

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Kaladr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#300 - 2012-01-16 07:06:42 UTC
Unified Uploader bug report (or so I think, can't tell if this is the unified upload or not):

Looks like a POST request is being made to the resource "http://eve-central.com/...", as below:

xx - - [15/Jan/2012:10:16:34 +0000] "POST http://eve-central.com/datainput.py/inputdata HTTP/1.1" 200 120 "-" "-"

However, the http:// doesn't belong in the actual request portion as below:

xx- - [15/Jan/2012:10:16:34 +0000] "POST /datainput.py/inputdata HTTP/1.1" 200 120 "-" "-"

Luckily enough server bits reformat the request into something sensible, but I can't guarantee this behavior when I switch over to the "new stack". Could you check the unified uploader for me to make sure the POST URL is sensible?

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