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Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-03-11 03:02:35 UTC
So I'm a little confused and I'm hoping I'm just being an idiot and its a simple answer.

So I like to fly Jams. Mostly Falcons but Kitsunes and Blackbirds as well. So my question is before the ECM changes when you attempted to jam a target and failed it showed the jam icon but it was dim, when it landed it was full and bright.

Today I noticed that I have no change in the icon regardless if I landed my jam or not. SOOOOO

How do you tell if you landed your jam???

Thanks in advance for I'm sure what is a silly question.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2016-03-11 04:13:25 UTC
Below the target there should be an indicator.

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unidenify
Deaf Armada
#3 - 2016-03-11 07:19:12 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Below the target there should be an indicator.

if you don't still understand

jam icon below target indict that Jam are successful.

if it fail, it will fade
Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-03-11 16:17:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Starscreem Sukarala
unidenify wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Below the target there should be an indicator.

if you don't still understand

jam icon below target indict that Jam are successful.

if it fail, it will fade


That is NOT the case. I tested it just this morning. The indicator I get as the Jamer is always bright and never dims no matter what my target (an alt of mine) shows.

Is my client bugged?

Here I took some screen shots to show you what I am seeing. What you are looking at here is my jamer on the right and the target on the left (kitsune and a maller). As you can see the target knows when its having attempts made (wich is new and right) and is notified by a timer showing up around the indication just like a module. If I can direct your attention to the right-hand side of the screen you can see that no matter what the status is on the maller my icon does not change... or am i just missing something

So here is what it looks like with an attempted jam that missed.

http://imgur.com/mV2KQz1

Here is what it looks like when it lands.

http://imgur.com/ULZEmQk

and in this screen shot can you tell me which of the 4 jams landed?

http://imgur.com/SwdPKhf
Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-03-12 20:58:22 UTC
So I take the lack of response as no one disagrees with me... has anyone else run into this?
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#6 - 2016-03-13 10:29:54 UTC
Target painters use to do that on rare occasions for me. I bug reported it a while back (when ever they last changed EWAR and support module indicators). I'd shoot another bug report up to CCP, but I honestly haven't seen TP's do that in a while and figured it had been fixed.

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#7 - 2016-03-13 11:17:43 UTC
Starscreem Sukarala wrote:
So I take the lack of response as no one disagrees with me... has anyone else run into this?


whatever bug you encountered appears to have been fixed. i flew jams today and when the jam failed, the icon was dull. when it landed, the icon was bright.

looks like it was some sort of display issue with the ECM tiericide in the recent patch that's now been patched :P

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Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-03-13 15:44:25 UTC
Guess its a local bug to my client then as I just repeated the same tests and had the same results. Could it be my over view pack? I dont really see how. I have a ticket open with CCP to see if its a bug. No clue what they response time will be though.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#9 - 2016-03-13 16:34:35 UTC
Starscreem Sukarala wrote:
Guess its a local bug to my client then as I just repeated the same tests and had the same results. Could it be my over view pack? I dont really see how. I have a ticket open with CCP to see if its a bug. No clue what they response time will be though.


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Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-03-13 18:39:05 UTC
I really had hoped that would be it. Reset ALL settings cleared cache ect... still same result.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#11 - 2016-03-13 20:23:04 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
"and in this screen shot can you tell me which of the 4 jams landed"

http://imgur.com/SwdPKhf



So, first thing I see is, off race jams on a Maller. Those will have a much less chance of actually landing. I mean, it could happen, but they just aren't bonused to do that.

The gold ECM is the one with the best chance, and if you look at it, there is a 'ring' indicating cycle time.
Then if you look at the actual jam on the left shot, the ring/cycle correlates with that.

Your Amarr ECM landed the jam on an Amarr ship.

Now, as far as you being able to tell that, from sitting in your ship, I don't see an indicator.
Last time I flew a Falcon, I think that there was a printed message pop up.... Jammed/Target jammed/ something... I could be way off base about that. And it could be changed long ago and I wouldn't know. Do you have combat messages turned off? or some other thing?
Charlinda Akheteru
Akheteru Integrated Astrometrics
#12 - 2016-03-14 14:42:22 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
"and in this screen shot can you tell me which of the 4 jams landed"

http://imgur.com/SwdPKhf



So, first thing I see is, off race jams on a Maller. Those will have a much less chance of actually landing. I mean, it could happen, but they just aren't bonused to do that.

The gold ECM is the one with the best chance, and if you look at it, there is a 'ring' indicating cycle time.
Then if you look at the actual jam on the left shot, the ring/cycle correlates with that.

Your Amarr ECM landed the jam on an Amarr ship.

Now, as far as you being able to tell that, from sitting in your ship, I don't see an indicator.
Last time I flew a Falcon, I think that there was a printed message pop up.... Jammed/Target jammed/ something... I could be way off base about that. And it could be changed long ago and I wouldn't know. Do you have combat messages turned off? or some other thing?

I'm assuming it's been a LONG time since you flew a Falcon. The indicators are right there in the screenshot. In the first two screenshots, OP if using only the racial jammer for Amarr. OP has posed a screenshot where the icon indicates a successful jam where there was none, successful jam where there was one, and 4 icons indicating 4 successful jams where there was only 1 successful jam.

Your entire post is just... I don't even know what to call your post. I hope I haven't been trolled. I got the sense you were serious. Last time I got troled, I think that there was a printed message pop up... Trolled/Troll poster/ something... I could be way off base about your post. And it could be changed long ago and I wouldn't know.

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Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-03-14 15:40:52 UTC
I fly Kitsunes, Falcons, Scorpions and Widdows on a regular basis, In fact I just lost a kitsue a few days ago. This is no troll. I have an open ticket to CCP about the issue as well. Let me be clear the james still function as intended as far as I can tell, my issue is the indicator that allows me to know if the target is jammed or not is not functioning. The screen shots are real and this is a legit issue for me.

Charlinda Akheteru wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
"and in this screen shot can you tell me which of the 4 jams landed"

http://imgur.com/SwdPKhf



So, first thing I see is, off race jams on a Maller. Those will have a much less chance of actually landing. I mean, it could happen, but they just aren't bonused to do that.

The gold ECM is the one with the best chance, and if you look at it, there is a 'ring' indicating cycle time.
Then if you look at the actual jam on the left shot, the ring/cycle correlates with that.

Your Amarr ECM landed the jam on an Amarr ship.

Now, as far as you being able to tell that, from sitting in your ship, I don't see an indicator.
Last time I flew a Falcon, I think that there was a printed message pop up.... Jammed/Target jammed/ something... I could be way off base about that. And it could be changed long ago and I wouldn't know. Do you have combat messages turned off? or some other thing?

I'm assuming it's been a LONG time since you flew a Falcon. The indicators are right there in the screenshot. In the first two screenshots, OP if using only the racial jammer for Amarr. OP has posed a screenshot where the icon indicates a successful jam where there was none, successful jam where there was one, and 4 icons indicating 4 successful jams where there was only 1 successful jam.

Your entire post is just... I don't even know what to call your post. I hope I haven't been trolled. I got the sense you were serious. Last time I got troled, I think that there was a printed message pop up... Trolled/Troll poster/ something... I could be way off base about your post. And it could be changed long ago and I wouldn't know.
Starscreem Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-03-14 15:57:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Starscreem Sukarala
Finally got a bug ticket submitted. EBR-72649:

at least I was able to get my support ticket updated

SUPPORT REQUEST #145154

Lets see what CCP has to say... when they respond
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#15 - 2016-03-14 17:06:38 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
I took a Falcon out yesterday and jammed some stuff. My icons look exactly like your screenshot.

The only way I could tell if it jammed, was the target would unlock me. But that wouldn't exactly indicate which module landed the jam.


Charlinda. Enlighten us with how it is working for you. Because 4 icons below the target doesn't actually indicate anything, except who you are TRYING to jam.

Edit here: This is what it used to do. Look by the target, notice the word "jam" when the module lands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j0Ok_GoQsQ
Huiteure Tsukaya
Magic The Horde
#16 - 2016-03-14 19:19:45 UTC
Just wanted to say I am getting the exact same problem. The indicators under the target do not change regardless of whether the jam was successful or not.
Murcusso
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2016-03-15 09:22:32 UTC
Yeah I have the same Problem, I know when I'm trying to jam, but no idea if I Land a sucessful Jam, other than breaking target lock, which isn't helpful if you weren't being targeted in the first place.
Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#18 - 2016-03-15 11:42:33 UTC
Actually noticed it too during at practice on SISI, though it was a bug, apparently not.
NovaCat13
Ember Interstellar Inc.
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#19 - 2016-03-16 00:44:51 UTC
Quote:
The icon for a ECM module shown under their active target will now dim correctly when the target is not successfully jammed.


-Patch Notes for March 2016 Release 1.3
Released on Tuesday, March 15th, 2016

Haven't been on since, so I'll assume it's working for you again?

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#20 - 2016-03-16 01:09:50 UTC
NovaCat13 wrote:

Haven't been on since, so I'll assume it's working for you again?


can confirm, is working tickety-boo.

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