Wormholes

What?
Remove the ONLY feature of the yacht, that makes it the yacht?
Make it totally no use whatsoever in any space?

So basically please REMOVE THE YACHT FROM THE GAME.
I thought you were suggesting make the higgs disable interdiction, not just execute the entire class of ship.

If disagreeing is stupid, I welcome that, please look at the killboards that are available, and you will see that somehow magically, people have managed to kill them.
Of course they could ALL be bad.

But we have gone through pages of discussion, with many points raised and discussed, and somehow we have come full circle to

"You Are stupid, because I am right"

Such a waste of effort, I should just have insulted people in the beginning and we would have just gone "no you!" No you!"
For a few pages.

But thank you for your contribution, do you have anything to offer, that could help Corbexx actually deal with this issue?

I did, we have not seen many, and never in numbers. And trying to catch them in a standard PVP fleet is NEVER going to be possible.

Hence from My own experience, they have not seemed a problem, but there are tales that certain groups are finding large groups of yachts causing them real problems.

Possibly we should focus on the problems that exist.

Perhaps we can just ignore him and keep discussing the issue?

What are your thoughts regarding my proposed changes?

Frankly mental.
Removing the ability for the yacht to have interdiction nullification in all space is simply that.

You two talk amongst yourselves, If you come up with something of value, I am sure someone will notice.

Honestly man, i've been more then respectful to you.

You dont seem to appreciate the input of others and keep bashing your head onto a topic that most parties agree is not the crux of the issue.

I dont think many people in the game use the yachts except for hole rolling, and those people could easily do the same work in an interceptor if they want the bubble immunity.

I dont think its appropriate to add restrictions like removing bubble interdiction onto the higgs rig itself rather then just pull it from the yacht because it removes the hole rolling t3 which I believe is an important part that we need to keep the game.

If you want to engage in a civil discourse about this issue, welcome back to the discussion, but please keep the hostility and ignorance to a minimum.

Whilst I hardly regard the quote As respectful, I can overlook that, if you are genuinely interested in addressing the issue, whatever that may be.



If you care to read back, you will note that The issue of TDSIN, was raised by others as the primary reason for this, requiring change, when discussion took place that the yacht, was not really an issue in LOclass WH space, and valuable for those players.

People said IT MUST BE solved because of TSDIN.

Fair enough, seemed like a problem existed there, so maybe that is what should be dealt with? Seemed reasonable.
You don't agree fine, not a problem. Obviously not the real issue. You Seem to feel it was some hobby horse of mine, but more my being concerned for the effects on others, and considering them. I have not seen that, but I imagine they are telling the truth?

Somwhat IS the problem? Is it some feeling that it is unfair that a ship with no combat ability, no defence ability, no ability for it to carry any quantity, has the temerity to be effective in some way when confronting a large Wolfpack?

Does this break the game in so massive a way that it should cease to have ANY role anywhere in space? And the role that lower skilled players had some ability to avoid bubbles before they trained interceptors, I imagine horde, brave newbies, and Karmafleet, should just stay in their home systems unless protected by a fleet?
So assuming they can do without this tool, and a massive issue exists to justify their withdrawal.

Please explain how it is such a massive problem?

When the only justification for any change, you feel no one is concerned about, they must be mistaken, not having any issues at all, so what is the issue?

Assuming there IS an issue is the issue people are annoyed That "Bears, or other perjoratives" should not be allowed to play?
And should pay a couple of battleships as the price to be left alone?
Because, It is getting really hard to determine, what the motivation is.
It doesn't help to read some peoples other posts out of this forum thread, as there are a lot of contradictions Between them.
But I would not want to come to any conclusions.

Common sense, would say, that if a problem exists, that problem should be considered and addressed.
If the problem is so overwhelming that the game would be seriously damaged or even destroyed, one of the suggestions for discussion posted by corbexx might be considered.
But when that apparently doesn't exist (in spite of people claiming it did), to select option X, which completely, removes a ship effectively from the game, might be considered a little "excessive"?

I don't feel removing the nullification would be a good idea, that thing is the whole point of the yacht. And again, it'd bet the yachts only opened pandora's box by introducing widespread "uncatchable" rolling in a cheap fashion for everyone. If only the yachts gets adjusted the groups that have started to rely on them will only change to T3 rolling ships. They are slightly easier to catch, but with a higgs anchor they align pretty fast as well.

I don't think nullification is the biggest issue, the biggest issue is being able to fit a 100mn AB so regardless of whether it can fit higgs or not its still partially viable as a rolling ship.

If you remove all the rigs slots I think that would work, denies it the fitting to fit a 100mn prop mod, and you can't fit higgs to it, while still retaining its cov ops cloak and nullification for travel purposes.