EVE General Discussion

Ship kills awarding better LP than running sites or missions would make things better imo. And split the lp between pilots involved in the kill just like splitting lp from closing plexes in order to encourage taking on more even fights as opposed to blobbing frigates.

That and suspect flagging neutrals that enter plexes so that we can advance the war effort without dropping our sec status so low we cant enter highsec safely because of the neuts looking for fights we have to deal with while plexing.

As for lp taxes, sure. So long as the tax % can be set by the corp and isnt a mandatory amount.

They can't give higher rewards for kills, it quickly becomes alt farmable.

I'd rather end up in more fights either on gates or in plexes than wasting time chasing stabbed plex farmers. As for the possibility of farming alts for kills, I can see that becoming more of an issue than it could be as things are now, but at least if they are undocked and shooting things they can be shot at as well. It could also be based on the value of the ship destroyed so that going out and blapping t1 frigs flown by your alt will end up earning you insignificant profit while destroying more expensive ships and earning a sizable amount of LP would still be unprofitable for alt farming. Ppl who want to win fights are still gonna fly around in more expensive ships in the hopes of winning more fights and at the same time are going to be more valuable to destroy.

As for moving fights out of plexes I think ppl will still prefer to try to get fights inside plexes simply for the tactical advantage. If you're on a gate (without a scout on the other side) the enemy can jump in with a larger fleet and wipe your fleet just as easily as you can wipe out a smaller fleet. Fighting inside a plex gives the advantage of seeing your targets coming and more time to make the call as to your response. And even if you do have a scout on the opposite side of the gate odd's are the fleet coming after you is going to know he's there as well if they're worth their salt and their going to behave accordingly. Heck you could even make it so that destroying enemy ships contributes towards capturing the system with an increased bonus if the fight happens in a plex. A small percentage but incentive none the less to fight and not plex farm.

Reading that article I see that something similar was already attempted but there were flaws in the value calculations. The system would have to ignore cargo contents and would have to be carefully balanced. Certainly an attainable goal.


I don't even know if there's any point at all to this comment or its just a poor attempt at trolling. We (most of us anyway) are more than happy to fight these neutrals. Any fight is a good fight, but we shouldn't be penalized for fighting in a war zone while at the same time utilizing FW mechanics simply because the targets in question don't care to pick a faction.

Second.
Don't want security hit?
Let the pirate shoot first.
One volly won't loose you many fights.
And then your free to go into highsec and get killed anyway by the opposing fw side lol

Unfortunately waiting for them to take the first shot will indeed get you killed more often than you think. Particularly if they are in high alpha ships or want to wait for more of their buddies to arrive. It's simply not a solution.

Being not safe from wt's is fine and dandy but being members of faction militia and carrying out our mission in the warzone shouldn't get us shot at by our own faction navy in highsec systems.

As a few people have said it the choice of how to engage that loses most fights, not the actual damage of the first volley. If you're in a brawling fit on the beacon, letting a neutral in a kiting setup pull range before the fight starts will often mean you have already lost and vice versa if the fits are switched. All that being said the sec loss is really barely noticeable if you don't actually pod the neutral so shooting neutrals isn't the big deal that people make it out to be and even if neutrals were still flagged in some way for entering a plex, I would still expect the sec loss to apply for podding them.

It's always struck me as odd for people to want game mechanics to make up for lack of loyalty, or commitment from their own members. I guess people foolish enough to fall for the "corporation" organizing factor and treating their fellow players as employees doesn't bode well when it comes to sharing the wealth and TRUST.

SO...EVE should alter itself to accommodate those who treat their "members" like employees at the Mickey D's.
Now, I've heard everything! Go API! Go API!!

A late scram will.