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Covert-ops Cloak Question

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-03-11 19:24:45 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Cara Forelli wrote:
Completely backwards IMO.
I agree about the Anathema; not sure if the Astero can be fitted with expanded probe launcher, cloak, AND tanky combat tackle, that probe launcher requires a lot of CPU. Guess I'll have to play with it some more.

It can't, but that's more an issue with the launcher than the ship. A lot of people don't bother with combat probes for their scout depending on the type of space they are scouting and how good they are with dscan. In wormhole space for instance, sites can be probed with core probes so there is very little use for combats unless they are at a safe or you aren't very good with dscan. In other areas of space they are more useful, like when you need to scan down mission runners etc.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2016-03-11 22:05:52 UTC
Teium Purvanen wrote:

I'm presuming i'll need 4 Warp Stabs to get away from 2 Warp Scrams in an Anathema?

4 stabs will fuxor your lock time and range making moving from container to container a bit longer thus increasing your exposure time and likely hurting you more than helping.

However maybe it saves you. You will have to play around with it and draw your own conclusions.

However there are faction points that have -3 points. So for two of those you'd need 6 stabs.

Go into any scram module in the info UI and go to the variations tab and click compare then you can configure to see scram points effect and see what is out there.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2016-03-11 22:10:34 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

No active module can be used while cloaked. Any active module however will finish it's current cycle and then deactivate (this is used in the Cloak/MWD trick).

aren't we leaving out the 1 second or so "grace period" from when you click cloak to be able to hit the MWD and get one cycle out of it before it shuts off?

OP I am fairly certain that you can hit cloak and then MWD and get one cycle out of your MWD while under cloak before the MWD shuts off.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#24 - 2016-03-11 22:50:41 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
J'Poll wrote:

No active module can be used while cloaked. Any active module however will finish it's current cycle and then deactivate (this is used in the Cloak/MWD trick).

aren't we leaving out the 1 second or so "grace period" from when you click cloak to be able to hit the MWD and get one cycle out of it before it shuts off?

OP I am fairly certain that you can hit cloak and then MWD and get one cycle out of your MWD while under cloak before the MWD shuts off.

yeah you can

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#25 - 2016-03-11 22:56:16 UTC
Teium Purvanen wrote:
If you are within 2,000km of an object it kicks you out of cloak.





*2,000m

No one picked up this typo? For shame

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#26 - 2016-03-12 02:09:24 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Cara Forelli wrote:
Completely backwards IMO.
I agree about the Anathema; not sure if the Astero can be fitted with expanded probe launcher, cloak, AND tanky combat tackle, that probe launcher requires a lot of CPU. Guess I'll have to play with it some more.

It can't, but that's more an issue with the launcher than the ship. A lot of people don't bother with combat probes for their scout depending on the type of space they are scouting and how good they are with dscan. In wormhole space for instance, sites can be probed with core probes so there is very little use for combats unless they are at a safe or you aren't very good with dscan. In other areas of space they are more useful, like when you need to scan down mission runners etc.


Combats are also good for scaring away the competition.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#27 - 2016-03-12 16:18:30 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Cara Forelli wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Cara Forelli wrote:
Completely backwards IMO.
I agree about the Anathema; not sure if the Astero can be fitted with expanded probe launcher, cloak, AND tanky combat tackle, that probe launcher requires a lot of CPU. Guess I'll have to play with it some more.

It can't, but that's more an issue with the launcher than the ship. A lot of people don't bother with combat probes for their scout depending on the type of space they are scouting and how good they are with dscan. In wormhole space for instance, sites can be probed with core probes so there is very little use for combats unless they are at a safe or you aren't very good with dscan. In other areas of space they are more useful, like when you need to scan down mission runners etc.


Combats are also good for scaring away the competition.




Indeed, and more satisfyingly is when you whip out the combat probes and the local 'pirate' corps start whining in local because you're disrupting their carrier-run level 5 missions :)

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-03-12 18:16:42 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
J'Poll wrote:

No active module can be used while cloaked. Any active module however will finish it's current cycle and then deactivate (this is used in the Cloak/MWD trick).

aren't we leaving out the 1 second or so "grace period" from when you click cloak to be able to hit the MWD and get one cycle out of it before it shuts off?

OP I am fairly certain that you can hit cloak and then MWD and get one cycle out of your MWD while under cloak before the MWD shuts off.

yeah you can
Confirming, and you have at least 2 seconds, so you can do it very reliably.

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