EVE General Discussion

hahahahahahahahahaha touche touche guess who the cloaky campers are, don't hear you complaining when ccp nurfs ships and other such things but as soon as someone mentions your preferred method of game play you toss the toys out of the playpen you guys are fracked seriously .......
as i said earlier i was trying out the whole cloaking thing and completely disrupted about twenty toons from their chosen gameplay and was completely safe doing so no risk but on the other hand no fun either just sit there doing nothing heck might as well unsub and not play anymore it was that boring but it also fracked with peoples play and there was nothing that they could do about it and that is what I thought it was way op .

Collisions would be awesome, until your little ship smacked into the side of a freighter that just undocked. Or an Orca warped in. Or some jackass with a Machariel bulldozed the undock in Jita.

have you used projectiles before as im failing to see how you think its ****, most of the best ships in the game are projectile platforms so can you detail these certain applications

I have a null exploration alt that I use during dull times. Just an astero roaming about whatever null region I find a wormhole to after making a Jita run with my latest pile of loot. I'll often leave him cloaked in a system for hours at a time. I've seen a wide range of responses.

• 20 players rush to dock and huddle inside the station/POS, eventually whining in local that cloakers should all die. These are probably the most toxic Eve players I've ever seen, because they have zero tolerance for anyone doing anything that disrupts their gameplay. That's not how Eve works.
• Another group of players simply packed up and left system. I found them two jumps later. As soon as I left, they returned to the first system. This was an excellent response.
• I saw a mining fleet (via dscan) dock up and return to the grid in cheap combat ships. They were spoiling for a fight and ready to lose if it came to it. I had a great conversation with those guys and we still keep in touch. My alt and my main are blue to their alliance now.
• Probably my favorite was when I roamed through Kids With Guns space and ended up in a ten-jump chase that basically turned into a game of tag with a gang of interceptors. Good times were had by all and I managed to survive.

ahh i see your point ..

well maybe the ships shields collide first and both are flung off whilst taking some amount of shield damage depending on speed and angle and the shields res could be the factor of damage inflicted


this could possibly be avoided on the undock by maybe having a area around the undock zones that auto docks you but only for incoming ships that way places like jita and stuff could still be manic as ****

Cloaking isn't OP, the irrational fear of cloakers is.

i have and im agreeing with the rest of them , suck it up

id say that is slightly misinformed
-yes afk miners and pve players gain isk and effect the economy
-yes no risk no reward
-afk cloakers do effect the economy as i said i disrupted players from doing their general stuff just by being there and that effects the economy

i still think if a player is afk in space regardless of cloak should be able to be ganked in some way hence the part where i mentioned being able to be scanned down after a certain amount of time maybe like 5hrs +

look im trying not to enter into the cloak debate so can we stop going on about it and maybe look at some of the other points that i made in post #1 for they are far more interesting than all you fullas prattling on about a seemingly age old debate about invisible ships

The misinformed part is on you my friend.

As for the latter parts, that's acceptable.
No, they do not. Afk cloakers gain no isk, assets or raw materials with which to affect the economy; the very nature of the cloaking mechanics ensures it.

That is not a direct affect on the economy, that is an indirect affect caused by the irrational fears of those that choose not to pursue their activities when faced with an observer that can't interact with them in any way other than on a mental/meta level.

That's fair enough, you're entitled to have an opinion; just as we are entitled to have ours. The difference is that yours appears to naive and uninformed.

The nature of your original post belies that, you entered into the debate the moment you posted it.

You're not bringing anything new to the table, your points have been belaboured and fully addressed in the past.

There's a counter to everything in EVE except people cloaked in safespots who have no intention of ever leaving the system or their safespot.

I mean, there's even a counter to Station traders!

Anyone ever thought about the way cloaks are like one way mirrors? They can see out, but your can't see in.

If cloaking is to be 'a skill', require a decloak for D-Scan. Sure, you can use your probes to look about, but a D-scan's going to require you dropping your 100% resistances for a moment.