Crime & Punishment

Down size guns and add shield tank, less DPS but you will last longer to the gate guns which nets more damage, if you have two cats one full gank and one shield tanked, the one with the tank shoots first so the gate guns dont shoot at the full gank fit.

If you gank near a gate or station with only few pilots, you may want to use alpha (Artillery) instead of DPS (Blasters). Unlike CONCORD, gateguns react immediately, and can potentially volley your untanked destroyer off the field, so one shot may be all you get. If you gank with a whole fleet, this doesn't matter, as they take their merry time switching targets. But if you only have two ships, gate- and stationguns do matter.

Find out which - can't tank what you don't know about.

And yes, "clone soldier" tags work on negative sec status. That said, the big hit's for podding; if you just shoot ships you've got a little way to go to -5.

Blasters and both of us at a range of 500m , we used the code standered fit , on the gate in a 0.8 , starting to see now what we did wrong with the info from above, it was fun trying and he placed a killright bounty of 25mill on us both

Keep in mind that you can downgrade by size based on target. Gank cats are used to yield maximum damage output for larger targets and are thus fitted for it. This means they may be somewhat lacking in tank (as if a cat could have less, right?)

Thus you may be able to take out a gank cat with nice cheap frigates.


All conflict is economics. If you can do it cheaper then the enemy, or get more bang (literally) for your buck and spend as much as an enemy, you can win. For that reason I would reconsider using gank cats to gank gank cats. (Ow, my brain).


I'm a bit busy this week but anybody got time with pyfa they might run some numbers and see how much it would take to drop a gank cat. Would one-shot from a pair of cheapy ghetto frigs be possible? Or is one volley too pessimistic? Can it be done with arty rifters or blaster Tristan? Perhaps a fast orbit kestrel?

I know people will say "hurrr durrr there will still be gank cats CODE always wins hurf blurf marsha marsha marsha" but if gank cats started getting hunted they would have to derive from their DPS to survive attacks. CODE might still get their freighter but seeing them forced to make changes like the pubbies they so despise makes their mortality stand out.

heh I failed my first two ganks. Found out my merlin couldn't kill a venture before concord got me and how was i supposed to know the dam carebear had fitted warp core stabs to his procurer

live and learn.

I use this Catalyst fit (T1 works very well) for ganking the gank-scouts (often frigates with cargoscanners and passive targeters sitting around gates near ganking hotspots). From my memory I can say that it provides enough tank to inflict a few volleys while being under gate guns DPS, especially in 0.5, 0.6 for example. Sometimes these scouts orbit the gate, in which case you need to do an accurate prediction of his movement and time your landing very precisely.

I once tried to use that fit, in an impulse, to gank a Probe scout who was scouting for a ganker at belt. The gank failed horribly because that Probe managed to get away from my Cata which of course didn't have web or scram. So yeah, only use that fit when you operate within sight of gate guns.

I will gladly join your operations when I have the occasion.