EVE General Discussion

Greetings Pilots!

We're doing a little bit of research for a project idea. We would like to know how big a loss has to be, before you are interested in knowing about it?
if you could vote on the below strawpoll:
http://strawpoll.me/7008775
We would be super grateful!

As an additional note, if you could take a moment to elaborate on what makes a kill interesting to you, as a response to this thread, (Eg, deadspace fit destroyers, frigates killing titans, PLEX hauling rookie ships) we would appreciate it.

Thank you for your input!

PS: We're aware that it's really the story behind a kill is what makes them truly interesting, but for the purposes of the project, we're most interested in the sort of information you get from just the killmail.

isk is just one factor

iv seen km's that have no right to exist but they do
an incursus taking an rlml orthrus solo.
frigs with over 30k damage tanked before going down ,
hell we used to be in the habit of taking marauders down with assault frigates.

the odd mtu km with bits of t2 gear that tells the tale of a poor mission runner humbled by the local npcs is always worth a giggle,
i love the little stories you get from these

This is the point. Unless you are looking for specific intel, or some hints to fit a ship, no one cares about ships lost during routine, and often meaningless, PvP. What is interesting is when meaningful assets are lost to other players, usually against their will, and this can be gleaned from the types and value of fitted modules and cargo, the identity and ships used by the attackers, and where the ship was lost. From that, you can usually fill in the story behind the kill.

Interesting kills are expensive (or those that involve rare ships), lop-sided (in either direction), or those that occur in places that present mechanical challenges (high security space) or strategic value (in the context of nullsec wars).

I love watching killboards for:

-the occasional Plex-Tanked ship (and lately skill injectors)
-the occasional frigate that solos (soloes?) a battleship or something that should, in essence, blap it.
-deaths by battle nereus (such a "defenceless" ship )
-CODE. kills (losing hundreds of millions if not billions instead of paying 10m lol)
-Merc deaths (especially those that are killed by solo players or small gang)

those are, in my opinion, some of the most catchy killmails you can find.
and they usually provide extra content like mails, tears, salt, etc.

Personally I absolutely hate this. If ever there was a "This is so OP" argument, it's right here. It's pretty much on the same lines as to why other ships got nerfed in the name of "balance".

Battle Nereus is only good against people that are total idiots (no offense to any concerned party)
It's as op as a battle venture and a battle badger imo (op level -10000)

What killmails I'm interested in? Those I'm on of course, the more expensive the better. Others not so much, except there is a good story behind.

The ISK amount doesn't interest me in the least, and having that first question with no "does not apply" option had me close the site before answering a question. ISK is hyper-inflated and how ISK is obtained is so unattached to gameplay I find it a metric only of "how has ISK acquisition distorted EVE's economy?" Sorry.

What I find interesting is; is the kill part of an ongoing martial activity engaged as an attribute of two sides vying in EVE's metagame, or is it the result of tiny-minded casuals GANKING for yuks?

The former is good for the game. The latter cheapens it and drives away intelligent players.

I only look at KB results to see what is prevailing in the current game model management has decided upon with the current playerbase the management decided they'd appeal to.

All else follows from this. Learning about destruction is as blindly repetitive as bean counting.
Its appeal seems to be to those who are easily titillated.

PS The "real dollar" value of pixel destruction in EVE is a bloated, self-aggrandizing fiction.

+1 point per billion of ISK value
+1 point per PLEX/injector in cargo
+(average zkillboard rank alliances that killed - zkillboard rank alliance that lost) points
+5 points per purple mod
+(cost of fit/cost of hull)*0.1 points
+10 points for famous corp
+50 points for famous name

Model killmail: https://zkillboard.com/kill/42740159/

Why is it based on monetary value only? I've seen and been part of many kills that are interesting yet the ISK value was pretty low.
Interesting kills can be due to the place, time, events surrounding it, and so on.