Crime & Punishment

Admiral Foxbolt, is that you?

The problem with protecting miners during mining ops is that its as boring as mining itself. In fact, you don't even get to see ore enter your cargohold, so you could argue that its even more boring than mining.

Sounds like a protection racket to me.

This here is some true bits.
Some friends of mine and I did this in the way back... long before crimewatch or CODE. were things. We just did it because it made sense. Boredom killed it.

Unless your security force has access to some extremely entertaining comms, are highly paid, or both then you are going to see some very lackluster enthusiasm on their part when it comes to this kind of duty. It's boring work. REALLY REALLY boring work.
Unless something happens. Then they either are johnny on the spot and do that thing they're paid to do post-haste... or they don't and the time and money sunk into the venture is lost.

It's possible for this to work, but realistically only if the guards are actually part of the organization that is doing the mining, and see some kind of tangible compensation for pulling this kind of crap duty. Mercs are going to charge more than the miners want to pay. Volunteers are gonna fall asleep or wander off. You need folks who have a vested interest in the success of the mining operation, and as such are willing to work on the cheap.

Even if you muster a crew that's down for this, they have to have their priorities in place for it to work. Gung ho idiots who are obsessed with killing teh enemas are useless in these situations... keeping the barges/haulers alive is the point, not scoring kills. Given that, your security crew has to have a realistically viable modus operandi.

unless your willing to gank the gankers as a lot of them have a positive status, some do have negative status, their times kill times are rather quick before you can even do anything so even the negative statuses will win....unless you want to kill every dd and bc in a system as people have told othes if you have a dd or bc on scan to dock and you wont be ganked

The only time an in-corp 'security division' works is if you are doing your mining in null/wh/low sec.

Hi sec they die of boredom unless you do mining ops during wardecs.

I did see one mining corp do such a thing in a war, they had nothing but Procs and Skiffs, plus their 'escort' team.

They got jumped, and ironically the mining ships got all the kills...:)

But that is very rare, has only happened once in the 3 years since I got back into EVE.

First you disappear then you return under a different but similar name? I actually thought you were gone for good.
That doesn't matter now, what does matter as that as of this moment...gamis is looking like a celebrity tonight.

Only Mortlake can excite us more.

A clear sign that we need some RICO Laws in New Eden!

In high sec this is incredibly difficult to do. I mean nothing stops you from doing it, but it is boring ordeal, the guard has to be on screen all the time and he has to be fast enough to prevent a gank. Ganks are often over in seconds unless we are talking about now dead hyperdunking. How exactly would you imagine this working?

Low sec is another story and just for a reference, we have guy who uses almost nothing but skiff for pvp. That battle skiff is approaching 40 kill marks already. We also used to bait in combat fitted mining ships in low when we had nothing to do. That kind of thing is fun, especially with carriers.