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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2441 - 2012-01-11 17:43:29 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:


That's exactly the problem, there is a specific forum area for doing that, and for some reason you and others incorrectly think EVE GD is the correct place. Scattering suggestions all over the place isn't helping you or CCP. If you or anyone else wants things to remain on topic for making WIS feature suggestions, try keeping it all in one thread in the correct forum area. By posting the same stuff here in GD over and over, you are just begging to get trolled over and over.



If CCP responded earlier in this thread and with an ontopic reply ,instead RABBLING nontopic stuff

The discussion about WIS and suggestions never existed in this thread.

R.S.I2014
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2442 - 2012-01-11 19:55:17 UTC
GD is perfectly fine for this thread. It was originally a thread requesting info on the future of WiS...in discussion ideas were spawned. Nothing wrong with that.

We are generally discussing the general future of WiS while requesting general information.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2443 - 2012-01-11 20:11:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


If CCP responded earlier in this thread and with an ontopic reply ,instead RABBLING nontopic stuff



They did answer you earlier on in this thread, it's several pages in, and has been linked to several times. We all know you don't like the answer because it says they don't know what they are going to do and don't know what the plan is yet. You just don't seem to get it that it might take more than 2 months to come up with something worth talking about that won't get CCP flamed.

oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:

The discussion about WIS and suggestions never existed in this thread.



This thread is full of players including the OP switching from demanding answers to calling it a feature discussion. As was already admitted, there are pages and pages of feature suggestions, "sprinkled" throughout.

Try to justify this abomination of a troll-bait thread however you wish, it won't change anything other than the level of amusement you are providing others at your own expense and dignity (assuming you have any).

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2444 - 2012-01-11 20:51:28 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Jill Xelitras wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
Issler



No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones.

And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ.

I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS.

Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ?

I wonder why I keep paying.


"More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming.

C'mon man...if you don't have any information that you are able to or allowed to divulge to us on the core issue of this thread then say so. At least a "I am sorry but I have no more information on the future of WiS at this time." is all it would take to keep people from getting annoyed with a reply that really only applies to one comment in a thread over 120 pages long that doesn't even really relate to the topic at hand.

It is nice to know there are more bug fixes and tweaks coming though. I like hearing that info too. You are one of the better devs that actually respond on the forums Guard. Keep up the good work...but please...get us more info on the future plans of WiS if possible.


There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2445 - 2012-01-11 21:04:11 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Jill Xelitras wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
Issler



No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones.

And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ.

I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS.

Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ?

I wonder why I keep paying.


"More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming.

C'mon man...if you don't have any information that you are able to or allowed to divulge to us on the core issue of this thread then say so. At least a "I am sorry but I have no more information on the future of WiS at this time." is all it would take to keep people from getting annoyed with a reply that really only applies to one comment in a thread over 120 pages long that doesn't even really relate to the topic at hand.

It is nice to know there are more bug fixes and tweaks coming though. I like hearing that info too. You are one of the better devs that actually respond on the forums Guard. Keep up the good work...but please...get us more info on the future plans of WiS if possible.


There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.



Finally!!!

/me does the CCP finally answered my thread question dance.

Not the answer I had hoped for, but what I expected.

Issler
Sicex
#2446 - 2012-01-11 21:07:57 UTC
Does this mean that after 123 pages and finally receiving a plain answer from CCP in response to the OP this threadnaught can be locked? Pirate
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2447 - 2012-01-11 21:12:11 UTC
Maybe move it or start a new WiS ideas thread.

(wow, my first threadnaught!)

Thanks for everyone on both sides of the fence that were here for honest debate and not trolling.

Issler
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2448 - 2012-01-11 21:12:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Sicex wrote:
Does this mean that after 123 pages and finally receiving a plain answer from CCP in response to the OP this threadnaught can be locked? Pirate



One would hope so, but since this latest answer is no different from the original one, I think there are probably still those who will continue to demand another answer anyway.

If the OP requests it, via "report post" it can be locked or moved however.

/in before all the ragequit poasts.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#2449 - 2012-01-11 21:12:48 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Jill Xelitras wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
Issler



No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones.

And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ.

I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS.

Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ?

I wonder why I keep paying.


"More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming.

C'mon man...if you don't have any information that you are able to or allowed to divulge to us on the core issue of this thread then say so. At least a "I am sorry but I have no more information on the future of WiS at this time." is all it would take to keep people from getting annoyed with a reply that really only applies to one comment in a thread over 120 pages long that doesn't even really relate to the topic at hand.

It is nice to know there are more bug fixes and tweaks coming though. I like hearing that info too. You are one of the better devs that actually respond on the forums Guard. Keep up the good work...but please...get us more info on the future plans of WiS if possible.


There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.


Well, we certainly would had saved a lot of posting if that same words had been said on October 27th. What?

And i would had saved myself 80+ euros (6 months of suscrption for my alt). And a PLEX i bought for this account, my main for the last 3 years. Lol

Because without WiS, and without new solo gameplay, and without new casual gameplay, and without new hisec gameplay, and without an affordable NEx, I just can't interest myself into the gameplay that has failed to interest me for three years... nullsec chore gameplay.P

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#2450 - 2012-01-11 21:13:26 UTC
There shall be no lock. Let my threadnaught go freeee.

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2451 - 2012-01-11 21:20:09 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:


There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.


So war, more PvP focus, how many years do we have to go till industrialists and miners get some love?? Mining is core. Manufacuring is core. Trading is core. PvE is core. Yet somehow core always seems to mean direct ship to ship PvP to CCP these days.

CCP, you are listening to the minority of whiny shouters again and the future of your game is in peril.

Issler
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2452 - 2012-01-11 21:23:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
CCP Guard wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Jill Xelitras wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
Issler



No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones.

And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ.

I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS.

Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ?

I wonder why I keep paying.


"More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming.

C'mon man...if you don't have any information that you are able to or allowed to divulge to us on the core issue of this thread then say so. At least a "I am sorry but I have no more information on the future of WiS at this time." is all it would take to keep people from getting annoyed with a reply that really only applies to one comment in a thread over 120 pages long that doesn't even really relate to the topic at hand.

It is nice to know there are more bug fixes and tweaks coming though. I like hearing that info too. You are one of the better devs that actually respond on the forums Guard. Keep up the good work...but please...get us more info on the future plans of WiS if possible.


There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.

Thank you very much Guard. While this is pretty much what I expected I believe this is the answer needed to satisfy us in this thread.

No new decision made on the future of WiS. Not permanantly dropped but no current plans for it. Plans for next expansion are war themed. Very plain and understandable.

Thank you again Guard.

No reason to lock the thread. If people want to keep discussing WiS stuff in it then they should be able to. Unless you want another WiS thread opened up in it's place Sicex? Twisted

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Solhild
Doomheim
#2453 - 2012-01-11 21:45:33 UTC
Well I'd say that looks like an invitation to come up with juicy ideas to make a compelling reason for iterating on WiS.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2454 - 2012-01-11 22:10:27 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:

There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.


Finally, something.

So it turns out getting an answer from CCP is as simple as making a 120 page threadnaught on a topic Evil Hooray for the 'new' CCP.

It's also important to point out that appealing to the CSM to seek clarification on our behalf did not work. Why do we have the CSM again if not to represent player concerns? Oh that's right, it's about null sec interests. Hooray for the CSM.

It's no wonder players focus on the forums to voice their concerns. What other avenues do we have, really?
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2455 - 2012-01-11 22:12:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
CCP Guard wrote:

There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.


Thanks for finally responding to this thread Guard.

It's great that you are committing to fixing/improving the core gameplay because lots of the older players have been asking for you to do this for years but were ignored. I hope that this time you guys can keep your promise and get things right but only time will tell.

I only ask that you spare a thought for some of the younger players like me who were suckered into this game by the promise of incarna as well as the vets that put up with all the problems in this game because they thought you were doing something interesting. We put our faith in your vision of creating the ultimate scfi game but sadly you guys did not deliver. Please don't let this be yet another feature of eve that feel unfinished and pointless.

With regards to your future plans for WIS, i request that you start small but lay the ground work to turn incarna into a fully fledged RPG.


Good luck o/

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2456 - 2012-01-12 00:26:41 UTC
Oh Well, I guess it's up to another company to pull off a propper FULL sci-fi sim.

Can you atleast add a /dance emote? So I can crank Billy Idol in my CQ.
Xuko Nuki
Heralds of Darkness
White Sky.
#2457 - 2012-01-12 00:42:32 UTC
"CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS! "

Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

future plans for WiS!

...

No future plans for WiS were clarified, "we don't have one" does not count as a plan. The thread must go on.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2458 - 2012-01-12 00:50:00 UTC
Xuko Nuki wrote:
"CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS! "

Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

future plans for WiS!

...

No future plans for WiS were clarified, "we don't have one" does not count as a plan. The thread must go on.


It's a good enough answer for me. I'm going to let my subscription lapse and go play another game until CCP actually delivers something that interests me.

Apparently there is a robot game out there where the developers actually deliver what they say they are going to deliver, when they say they are going to do so (how weird is that?)
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2459 - 2012-01-12 00:56:23 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Xuko Nuki wrote:
"CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS! "

Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

future plans for WiS!

...

No future plans for WiS were clarified, "we don't have one" does not count as a plan. The thread must go on.


It's a good enough answer for me. I'm going to let my subscription lapse and go play another game until CCP actually delivers something that interests me.

Apparently there is a robot game out there where the developers actually deliver what they say they are going to deliver, when they say they are going to do so (how weird is that?)

Robot game? Rock em' Sock em' Robots?

If you mean the robot game I think you mean...I feel for you. That game sucks.

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#2460 - 2012-01-12 00:59:41 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:


If you mean the robot game I think you mean...I feel for you. That game sucks.


I find it fun, and it reminds me of how EVE used to be. You know, back when the game was still vast and full of potential, CCPs word actually meant something, and the 'Soon'(tm) meme was yet to be invented.