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Was Monoclegate a staged PR event?

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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2016-03-03 20:31:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
When they introduced Monocles, there was massive protests and hurfing. Over an item that gave ZERO advantage.
Meanwhile, we now have Skill Injectors, which gives you a direct advantage, and not a single **** was given.

This leads me to wonder if CCP themselves staged the whole monoclegate thing for PR, to get their jita statue on the news headlines again. The player base never themselves organized into the protests without the push of CCP Community Organizers trying to fan the flames, in an attempt to generate news articles about their game.

And now with skill injectors, a feature that REALLY IS pay2win, there is no protests, simply because CCP knows any news articles about the injectors WILL look bad for them. They dont want protests or publicity about it, and so they never bothered flaming the community into an uproar like they did with the monocles.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2016-03-03 21:54:03 UTC
...You...you do realise that monacles were a symptom, not a cause, right?

And that, much as I'm unsure of the idea, the SP you get from extractors has at least been trained by someone somewhere, not just created from thin air? It's not really any more pay to win than the bazarr, or ebay...
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#3 - 2016-03-03 23:05:07 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
...You...you do realise that monacles were a symptom, not a cause, right?

And that, much as I'm unsure of the idea, the SP you get from extractors has at least been trained by someone somewhere, not just created from thin air? It's not really any more pay to win than the bazarr, or ebay...

I'd be happy with SP injectors if they also killed the Bazaar so that ownership of characters stopped changing.
Some form of SP trading is a necessary evil to combat gold & account sellers in the game, as without it people will simply indulge in a black market, which means people will get hacked over it and scammed over it.
But both the Bazaar and SP Injectors is unnecessary.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#4 - 2016-03-03 23:22:56 UTC
Urgh.. threads like this... are truly terrible.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#5 - 2016-03-03 23:34:09 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
...You...you do realise that monacles were a symptom, not a cause, right?

And that, much as I'm unsure of the idea, the SP you get from extractors has at least been trained by someone somewhere, not just created from thin air? It's not really any more pay to win than the bazarr, or ebay...

I'd be happy with SP injectors if they also killed the Bazaar so that ownership of characters stopped changing.
Some form of SP trading is a necessary evil to combat gold & account sellers in the game, as without it people will simply indulge in a black market, which means people will get hacked over it and scammed over it.
But both the Bazaar and SP Injectors is unnecessary.

Do you know how expensive injectors get after 100m SP?

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2016-03-04 00:19:30 UTC
I don't see a feature or idea here.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Valkin Mordirc
#7 - 2016-03-04 03:50:24 UTC
:TinFoil:


The 'riots' where caused by more factors then just a cosmetic item. The Monocle was used as herald of complaints but it was not the direct cause of the issues that were at hand.
#DeleteTheWeak
Iain Cariaba
#8 - 2016-03-04 04:20:26 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
stuff

Here's how to solve your dilema.

1. Extract all SP from all characters.
2. Contract all items and isk from all accounts to Iain Cariaba.
3. Biomass all characters.
4. Unsub all accounts.
5. Never play another MMO again.

Those are the steps you take to avoid any sort of pay2win.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#9 - 2016-03-04 06:58:48 UTC
yes, just like the fake moon landing

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-03-04 15:03:13 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
I don't see a feature or idea here.


Best post in thread by far.
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2016-03-04 16:01:16 UTC
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