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Shattered WHs

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Sanic Xaqueter
Glory-WH Inc.
See No Evil Hear No Evil
#1 - 2016-03-03 06:15:48 UTC
Hello everyone! I have some questions about shattered wormholes and while doing various net searches I have question that I haven't found the answers too.

1- Are C1-3 shattered WHs all the same for what spawns inside them as far as gas, ore, ice, data, relic sites?

2- How do shattered c4 differ from c13s? Can they also have hi-sec static?

3- What spawns in a c-5 & c6 shattered WH that is different from all the lower classes? Can these still have hi sec statics?

4- Do any shattered WHs have k space statics that can fit freighters?

5- Is it possible to close all the Whs in a shattered?

6- How much more frequent do sigs spawn?

7- what could I expect to see for hacking cans for pirate named data & relic sites? any BPCs?

I'm sure I'll think of more later...

Thank you so much!
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#2 - 2016-03-03 07:30:28 UTC
As far as I know, shattered wormholes will have sites from one class below AND one class above them. This means that a c4 shattered will have sites from regular c3 (this includes pirate faction data/relics) and c5. Unlike a regular c4, a shattered c4 can have k-space connections, I think they will be frig (or perhaps cruiser) only.

As far as statics, there is very little information about that available yet. I have found that most wormhole intel sites will list statics for shattered holes which then turn out not to exist. I suspect shattered wormholes might not even have statics, only wandering connections.

There are a few sites which only show up in shattered wormholes, I do not know much about them.
Pannax Ni
Pinch n' Plex
#3 - 2016-03-03 10:10:49 UTC
Sanic Xaqueter wrote:

1- Are C1-3 shattered WHs all the same for what spawns inside them as far as gas, ore, ice, data, relic sites?

2- How do shattered c4 differ from c13s? Can they also have hi-sec static?

3- What spawns in a c-5 & c6 shattered WH that is different from all the lower classes? Can these still have hi sec statics?

4- Do any shattered WHs have k space statics that can fit freighters?

5- Is it possible to close all the Whs in a shattered?

6- How much more frequent do sigs spawn?

7- what could I expect to see for hacking cans for pirate named data & relic sites? any BPCs?


1. Yes. They will in addition spawn sites one class below and above them. Eg. a C3 shattered will also have C2 and C4 sites.

2. I believe the C13s are the shattered frigate holes?

3. There are are super large relic or data sites.

4. Shattered WHs do not have statics that behave as other WH space statics.

5. I doubt it, and there would be many WHs of different sizes.

6. Maybe twice as much?

7. Same loot as nullsec pirate data and relic sites.
Pinkylein
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No Vacancies.
#4 - 2016-03-03 12:01:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinkylein
Sanic Xaqueter wrote:
Hello everyone! I have some questions about shattered wormholes and while doing various net searches I have question that I haven't found the answers too.

1- Are C1-3 shattered WHs all the same for what spawns inside them as far as gas, ore, ice, data, relic sites?

2- How do shattered c4 differ from c13s? Can they also have hi-sec static?

3- What spawns in a c-5 & c6 shattered WH that is different from all the lower classes? Can these still have hi sec statics?

4- Do any shattered WHs have k space statics that can fit freighters?

5- Is it possible to close all the Whs in a shattered?

6- How much more frequent do sigs spawn?

7- what could I expect to see for hacking cans for pirate named data & relic sites? any BPCs?

I'm sure I'll think of more later...

Thank you so much!


Shattered Wormholes of different classes are not the same in what they can spawn.

We have to make a difference to normal shattered wormholes and C13 shattered ones.

Normal Shattered wormholes:
They have basically the same restrictions as normal wormholes, but have additionally some things, that would not spawn in a regular wormhole. That means while a C4 for example cannot have a normal sized HS/LS/NS, a shattered C4 can have that. Additionally to that they have usually 2 different classes in sites in them. That means a C3 Shattered wormhole, also has the chance to have C4 Sites in it. Shattered wormholes of those kind can be someones static wormhole C247 could go into a C3 that is a static. They often have several k-space statics, you can find wh's with a D845/U210 and K346 sig which is HS/LS/NS static in one shattered wh. "Normal" shattered wormholes also have only double-0 digits, which means you will find J005471 as one of those (just as an example).

All those things apply for all classes. That means a C6 shattered wormhole that is a static of another wormhole, would not feel different then a normal C6, except the double-digit number and the shattered ice/ore belts inside and possible statics you would define as wandering wormholes, which do not usually exist as those wandering kinds (D845-sig has HS-static for example in a C4, or even in a C6). And you can find ns-relic/data sites in those. They all can have effects you can find in other wh's as well or can also have no effects at all.

You can close all entrances if you like, but by my experience, all statics you find in a shattered, belongs to that wormhole and are not wandering wormholes, which will appear as soon as you closed another one, with the common regulations about possibily to open after some time by itself.

They have all no moons and their planets are shattered. So you can atm not anchor a POS to live in there (you can ofc live there, but not with a POS).


C13 shattered wormholes:

Those wormholes are special in how they are. They ONLY allow frigate-wormhole entrances M001,L005 and such and are triple-0-digits, like J000658 or J000631.

They all have a C6 wolf rayet effect and spawn Class-dependent sites. So you can usually say it's a C13 with C2 sites for example. They have everything the normal shattered wh's have as well, except normal sized entrances. Thats pretty much all of the facts that matter.


Now for your questions:

1. answered
2. answered (yes they can have hs-statics)
3. answered (yes they can have hs-statics)
4. no - normal shattered wh's are based on the same restrictions in mass as normal wh's are. So no freighters from hs.
5. yes, with the respawn mechanism of said statics in the wh
6. not more then in other wh's, but since mechanics are that a sig spawns then another sig disappears in the same class of wh's (afaik), they should be more frequent in case someone farms other shattered wh's or other wh's of the same class for normal shattered wh's
7. same stuff you can find in normal c1-c3 for pirate/ns sites.

Hope that helps so far.
Sanic Xaqueter
Glory-WH Inc.
See No Evil Hear No Evil
#5 - 2016-03-04 06:27:25 UTC
Thank you so much everyone you have answered all my question and given me alot of education and things to consider.

I am interested in exploring a C4 shattered WH with a hi-sec static. What would be the best stragety to find one?
Pinkylein
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#6 - 2016-03-04 07:30:59 UTC
Well ... searching ... unless you ask ppl to find one for you and by just reading posts in this forum, i would not advice ppl to do that, unless you know them already ingame or personally, as for some reasons there are too many ppl just wanting to grab the money from you ... no idea why ....

But why a C4 shattered wormhole? Exploration more sounds for me like doing pirate/ns-data/relic sites, so shattered wormholes would not bring any benefits, especially since my experience did not show that there are higher or even equal amounts of those sites in shattered wormholes, then in normal C1-C3's.

Unless you want to do PVE inside or gas huffing or ice-mining.

But at the end you want to find one ... there are websites out there that have all wormholes listed ... gotta get to work soon, so i am a bit in hurry (and a bit too lazy atm :D) so you might check that out first and find all the shattered c4's ...

then you go scanning ... might take days, weeks or maybe you're incredible lucky and might find your favorite one after a day.
Smart Bomb
Nomad Collective
OnlyHoles
#7 - 2016-03-05 03:23:22 UTC
I understand that. What are the chances citadels will be allowed to be setup in a shattered WH? Do you think they will just disable them in shattered since there's ice in them? Do you think shattered WH will allow PI after citadels comes out?
Pinkylein
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#8 - 2016-03-05 05:41:09 UTC
Not that i did read everything so far, what came out about citadels, but i did not read anything about that citadels will be not allowed in shattered wh's ... but i could be totally wrong about it. If there was nothing released yet, chances ... well ...

50:50 i would say ... either CCP does not want it, or they go with "put your citadel where you want", including shattered ...

About PI. Same deal i think.
Pinkylein
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#9 - 2016-03-05 06:07:52 UTC
Oh and i have to correct something from a previous statement .... normal shattered also can be single-0 digits. Like the sansha one J011195 ...