Crime & Punishment

So.. I have a question about High Sec and -10 characters.

When I last checked out from EVE a few years ago, characters with -10 security rating were not allowed in security 0.5 and above. Now they apparently are allowed and appear to like to abuse this.

I am somewhat for some sort of punishment for disrupting other people's leisure time. I understand that "safe space" is not supposed to be *that* safe. But what good is a security status when it's not enforced in any way? Even kill rights are worthless when nobody enforces them.

What would be interesting is a way to pay Concord to execute your kill right, price based on your standing - pod kill optional and only available if the perpetrator is below -5, for an extra fee of course. And only while they are in High Sec, obviously.

What's your thoughts on the matter? In some way it's another way to sink money - and to make HighSec a little less secure for those who break the rules.

Afaik, this was never the case although it is something ignorantly spouted by many carebears.


If I would have seen you I would have killed you too. I am not -10 and you would have died in the same glorious fashion. You had a hilariously blingy ship with very poor protection. The fact that you were killed by a -10 is irrelevant. Further, they have it much harder than anyone else, so no they don't need further restrictions.

Alternatively, I have an ocean-sized bucket for that deluge of tears.

Proceed to Star Trek online, forum warrior princess. That's where you belong. Link the fictional saga about me again, immortalize me more. Silly scared alt.

It would help the op more if they learnt how to fit ships rather then make silly posts on forums. Like rigging things and not leaving empty midslots/trying to tank a mack with a small shield booster. The level of ignorance is both profound and depressing.

They are "allowed" so far as they can use gates and such.

They just have to run a lot. They're fun to shoot at.

Being -10 means you will never be in a situation where you have to experience the wonders of eve's pve content. Unless you're killing someone doing pve. Then it's like 20 seconds max.

It's not so bad.

High sec is already safe enough! It's not up to CCP to make High Sec even more a heaven for the risk averse and lazy ones.
You lost one ship and got podded, get over it, it will happen again, sooner or later.
Tbh, it was no wonder you got killed, with that fit shouting "Please gank me" and your pod was a juicy target too.
I'm pretty sure you didn't spent attention to your D-Scan, because if you would have done so, there wouldn't have been a gank in the first place!
But of course it's easier to come to C&P and whine about "gimme more security in High Sec, because i'm playing since '05 and still have no clue about how easy it is to avoid to be ganked". Just wait a second and let me get my tear collecting bucket.

You should not think about CCP making HS even more secure as it already is, you should think about how you can avoid to be ganked or get yourself out of your comfort zone and fight back.
Otoh, If you just want to be a miner, then a mining permit is also mandatory, it's only 10M, a real bargain!

P.S: Breaking the rules and shootin' stuff is one of the core concepts of EVE, hell, it's even in its name: EvE= Everone versus Everyone.

I would pay to see you mine,

Okay.. I enjoyed the insights so far - even the TL;DR of some obviously butthurt PvPers. It was interesting to see how "blingy" those ORE miners have become. When I bought them some years ago (before the Phobos kill, for those checking kill info) they were worth "only" about 30 million ISK. Is it fear of gankers that made them skyrocket in price? I sold one of them (I actually had 3 from a Hulk that is now useless) and made back more than I lost in that kill.

The only thing I am a bit frustrated about is the fact that nobody seems to care anymore. Back in the old days you received offers like "I'll deliver his frozen corpse for XX millions to you" by some respectable Mercs, but even that appears to have disappeared into scamming.. The thing I meant was something like how you press charges with the police today.. Some similar mechanics would be interesting, not breaking the game. Police would hunt and shoot a person that just shot a school relentlessly until he's down, but probably think differently about a white guy that just robbed a convenience store. (#DigitalLifesMatter)

Anyhow, I am not crying over spilled milk, I am wondering about where game mechanics went that were once a bit friendlier to you and your (returning) ass. I mean, everyone has his SOE(*) at some point and can talk about it on end if he wants to.
(*= Sore Orifice Event)

And while we are on the subject of Fittings - is there anything still around like that once so powerful PvP Hulk? Or did the ganker's whining successfully make CCP remove all the ganker traps?