Market Discussions

I would invest for a .5% tax, would give a good ROI.

Could build it half-way between dodixie and jita.

Will need to pay ongoing security to protect investment.

Mine is 0.23% in Dodixie. I believe 0.19% is the best you can get.

Sooo.... How 'bout them Citadels?

Then set it to 0.05%. If it became even half as big as Dodixie it would be insanely profitable.

That said, I highly doubt this will work. Either people wont trust it, will be too stuck in their ways, or CCP will implement something to prevent it. Maybe only a limited number of market slots in the whole citadel? Something along those lines.

Since when are you allowed to put up any stuff in jita? At all?.... Jita and rooky systems are always on the non-build stuff list.

Hello all,

I hope you are all as excited I am for the next meta: Citadels. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/

As you know, Citadels will be somewhat of a hybrid between player made stations, and what we currently call POS'. One of the great things about Citadels is that people will be able to trade items at zero percent tax (provided that the owner chooses so).

Recently, someone calculated that there was 350 billion in profit made in Jita daily. I think his or her numbers were found to be off, but 350 billion is just the margin. Imagine how much isk is actually changing hands! Likely trillions a day...

Jita currently charges a tax for every isk spent. Even if this tax were as low as 1%, same would amount to 10 billion in taxes per trillion. With citadels, we could possibly forego this tax.

Do you think that, with enough publicity, people could be persuaded to change the current market from Jita 4-4 to possibly an XL-Citadel located somewhere else in the system?

If so, I propose getting together and building an XL Citadel in Jita (and maybe later one in Amarr). I have quite a few billion saved up, which I would be willing to invest, but obviously I cannot do it alone.

Let me know what you think. If there is interest, there would need to be a way to remunerate those that contribute. Maybe a lottery based on the amount of isk that you donate? If you win the lottery you get your name name as part of the citadel name for a certain amount of time?

Obviously all the isk would go to a third party, such as Chribba. We could even agree to make Chribba the owner of the citadels to make sure that there is no abuse and that taxes aren’t raised.

Note: this assumes that an XL Citadel would be very hard to destroy in High Security - possibly a reasonable assumption given that no capital ships are available. Although any items within the citadel would be transferred to another station if ever it does get destroyed.

Edit: This could also be used for free repairs.

There absolutely, positively must be something to prevent fees getting that low.

Market taxes are one of the few truly largescale methods by which ISK is destroyed in the game.

If we can circumvent them, expect to see a lot more ISK in the economy. PLEX at 2500m would be one medium-term consequence (due solely to a devaluation of ISK, so 5 PLEX would still be worth about a billion Trit, just not the same amount of ISK).

Even placed in Perimeter, it would save you one jump from any other trade hub and
1. Having Perimeter and Jita combo will easy Jita traffic. I still remember dozens of freighters hanging on Perimeter gate to Jita.
2. Lower taxes will attract many occasional sellers. Not everyone is hard core market guru with low taxes.
3. Security level 1 is a little bit more safe, than security level 0.9.

So even if Jita will remain the biggest trade hub, some serios trade citadel in Perimeter will attract ppl, who do not want ot wait on gate, mroe afraid of gankers, have high taxes on Caldary Navy stations. Selling stuff one jump from Jita is not that bad thing after all.

And that matters. If you do not want rival alliance use your hub - ban them or change taxes. Do not stay tonnel visioned about hunting down defenseless targets. Go get real some, some who put a fight. Trade hub must be safe and here every +0.1 of security matters. I would choose Urlen over Perimeter.

Anyway it will be interesting time with large citadels poping and exploding in high sec. Tons of advertising, spam expected... I guess eve uni and brave newbees will build some, that will last.