Crime & Punishment

Wow, just wow. You are telling me how I am assuming a lot of things all the while you keep telling me I don't want to lose the ability to gate camp in low sec. News flash, I have never gate camped in low sec.

I did propose an alternative. Don't go through systems you know are camped if you don't have the numbers to fight back.
I then pointed out how without even being anywhere near a computer that can run eve I found a much much safer route with a 2 jump detour.

I have a feeling you've never actually taken part long term, in gate camping low sec. Rather than it being 'easy' as you put it, it's the opposite. Your statement regarding the Rattlesnakes, belies your claim of being a 2003 player. Not only was it possible without that ship, it was happing before that ship even existed.

The game has seen many changes over the years, that have made lowsec piracy on gate harder than ever. WTZ, auto pilot settings and more, have all seen a massive decrease in low sec piracy on gates. But also game changes to how you can be attacked have also meant gate camping in low, is very much one of the riskiest professions in the game.

Now at this point I'm sure you'll be disagreeing a lot and thinking you know best. But here's why you would be wrong.

When you camp a gate, you have a rather large, 'We are here' sign. You remain in the same spot and basically invite everyone and their the kitchen sink to come and have a go. Not only that, but the fits required to camp successfully, do not generally bode well when groups arrive on the scene to violence your boat.

You are for all intents and purposes, sitting ducks.

Now your suggestion that as pirates we should fight the game, is quite frankly ridiculous. This is a sandbox MMO. The whole point of the game is small set of rules, open game for players to makes their own. But gate camping IS piracy. We camped Rancer for years and made a fairly good living off ransoms, but it got harder and harder. To the point, it became pointless.

You also suggest it's a problem when the intention isn't to hunt campers. Well welcome to Eve. The game is full of situations that meet that requirement, including fittings. Which is all the more reason why gate camping is fine. To suggest travelling should be made safer, because you do not or will not use the tools readily available, isn't going to gain any traction here or with CCP.

The game as it sits now, is the safest it's ever been for those wishing to avoid conflict. So much so it saddens me. So you'll have to excuse me for laughing at and mocking your ignorance.

everyone replying in this thread, hasn't actually left hisec.

just sayn.

Post with your main or gtfo.

I want to to see the lossmail that sparked this rage.

clearly you are very dead wrong.



anyway, if gate camping is so easy, bring your friends and make the effort to get rid of them.

which naughty pirate group violated you?

Lowsec is fine how it is and if you're regularly moving through it you should be using your map to gauge how many ships and pods have been destroyed in the systems you're moving through. When you do lose a ship it's the cost of doing business in lowsec which, if you're decent at, should allow you to lose ships on occasion and still come out ahead.

Speaking of Jan, the Autaris gate in Jan is often camped. (All I've spotted so far is Svipuls, Keres, logi and some random outrageous Machariel). Also keep in mind that their alliance (<16-13> for the curious) is based 1 jump away, in Nalvula, so watch out. Here's how:


/thread I guess.

Whilst we're complaining, I'd also like to point out an inherent issue concerning the Noctis.

I tried running a Maze in one last week and it died within seconds. This is obviously wrong and should be fixed immediately.

Also, what's the point of even being able to put a plex in your cargohold? I hear people complaining about dying whilst autopiloting with them at certain specific gates and stations all the time, especially when they're flying rookie ships. These ships obviously need a buff and / or Thrashers and Tornados need to be rebalanced.

This game is crap because it's not coded correctly. CCP's HTLM sux.

+1 and also cloaky mwd trick removed for anything that isnt a cov ops