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I'm pretty sure the JC fee is for installing the clone, whether you actually hit install or just jump out to another clone for the first time, which leaves a clone behind. Not upon every jump. If it were every jump that would be kinda silly and definitely a detractor to new player participation.

Moving the mineral taxes to an isk tax seems fine. But that will result in a large influx of minerals into the markets, possibly having a downward effect on mineral prices, which would then push the isk taxes down. Not sure how much of an effect it will be.

The increase in NPC station taxes does a couple of interesting things besides make citadels more competitive. It will make standings more important for players that do not wish to take the risk of having their things sold from a citadel. I like his dynamic. More risk, more reward.

Compression merging with Reprocessing, both in citadels. Well, as much as I was hoping to see people put up compression POSes in mining systems and make money themselves rather than let the capital producers bypass them, I guess goons were right on that one. Whodda thunk miners were so lazy they would throw away an extra few percent on their ore?

lol ding ding ding, real motive found. grr gons

I'd use a citadel in high-sec for a trade-hub to squeeze out those extra 3 - 4%. In the end, it just depends on how much risk you are willing to take.

Fair enough (I forgot this point), but there is still the issue of time here. I thought there was at least a delay for the recovery.

However, even if it is free, you are still asking for a huge time commitment from players here which adds no value to the game.

Scenerio:

Let us assume all players willingly go from the Jita market to an xl citadel to avoid the taxes.:

Fact: It will be destroyed just for the laughs as this is Eve.

Now, let's assume that players get there stuff back immediately AND there is already another citadel in the same system for them to move it all (I think you can choose to have it moved automatically to another citadel, so we will go with that).

You are then requiring players to spend thousands of hours relisting every order they had up.


My reasoning behind why this will not work:

Listen to have many people in null sec complain when they have to move one region over and relist their contracts (let alone their market orders).

Now you expect people in high sec to be willing to do that or even risk that when they have thousands of orders?

It is grr everyone that can deny you access to stuff in a citadel.

It's not the price of the single clone per se, but the prospect of having a non-negligible cost of swapping back and forth when you are new and want to try a lot of different things out before you settle for being a F1 monkey.

If you sell enough volume, yes, yes it is.

Considering they are one of the few groups in the game that could actually defend the stupid thing, people will use it.

Right now, the only way I can see any sort of citadel in high sec would be if Cribba was the ONLY one who could have access to docking rights, anchoring rights, etc. AND had some agreement with the other major groups in the game to not destroy the thing every other week.

their attempt at holding pocos failed - i wouldn't put much faith in their ability to defend a citadel.

While I like the idea of more player control about eve, this is moving too far into the regions where other players can effectively control how and where I play eve for my taste. Eve is already a game that is at times as tedious and overcomplicated as it's fun and engaging. The market and jumpclone changes will only make this worse, even more so if you are a casual player without some big alliance logistic backbone. Every change that makes actual gameplay require more logistic/clicks/hassle in general will make casual scrubs like me pause and think if hitting "find game" in CS:GO isn't the better use of my time. Don't lose the "small guy" from focus when you plan some big poweblock endgame.

NPC taxes are an essential ISK sink and an immersion factor. We have too many ISK faucets. The changes are extremely positive.


Adjusting Contract fees and Jump Clone fees is also long overdue and I welcome it.

Finally, compression and reprocessing shouldn't be instant, but that's just me I guess.