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Let's summarize this thread and the changes to the DC:

1) If you fit it for the non-stacking shield and armor bonus like you would on a shield or armor tank fit which are ALMOST ALL fits, it will not change anything, you don't care about the hull bonus anyway, you still want to fit it.

2) If you fit it because you are an elite PvPer who tanks with hull, nothing will change since this is the only module which gives you additional resists to hull, you HAVE to fit it.

The only thing that seams to come out of this is a buff to Freighters who could not fit them in the first place.

Well played Fozzy, well played.

No, it's a natural progression of the fact that every time someone suggests that players might actually like to fit a non-defensive module, there's a chorus of "BUT THE EHP LOSS!".

And if were all sitting around objectively fitting ships like good little EFT monkeys then I'd agree, but ship fitting isn't objective, it's entirely down to individual preference and use.

That depends entirely on how much preference you put on it. Zeroing hull resists is a bit more of a sacrifice than dropping them to 34%, so some people will fall within that category of did want before, dont; want after. That's what they are going for. People like baltec seem to be pushing for a situation where noone in their right mind would bother using a DC. I don;t believe that's what CCP are going for.

My bad, I forgot that everyone flies in a fleet with an FC under a doctrine and that not a single player chooses their own fits for any activity in the game.

Except they won't. I know for a fact that some ships will not fit the DC afterwards since I will be removing the DC from some of my ships, thus you are categorically wrong. And we're not talking about people fitting shitfits, just people who don't fit in exactly the same way you do. vOv

Is it any wonder that your complaints about the change are ignored when you make clear and obvious fabrications instead of realistic arguments?

Enjoy the buff!

Just spent a few hours on SISI playing with the "new" DCU.

Anyone who uses a DCU now on a fit will continue to do so.

My T2 haulers have a little more EHP with hull resists (no DCU fitted)
My JF has a reasonable buff (no DCU)

The rest of my fits - NO change, with the built in hull resist and shield, armor resists unchanged the DCU still has exactly the same use as it does now.

Only issue I have with the new DCU is i kept trying to activate it and ended up off lining it. That I'll get used to.

New DCU is a bit of a buff for those fits that don't or can't fit a DCU (T1, T2 haulers, freighters, some fits on smaller ships), other than that it gives exactly the same resist profile it does now.
Someone may come up with some niche fits that no longer use a DCU but they will have the same drawback as they do now - a lower resist profile.

NB; The bonus from the new DCU is the officer and faction modules, they will when used correctly give a really nice EHP buff to just about any ship worth spending the isk on.

But, that's not what I wanted. I like that the damage control is a damn near mandatory module. I wouldn't want to see it actually become less useful. And, frankly, I don't care one bit about whether freighters got a decent buff out of this change, because I don't fly one in high sec and I won't ever be shooting one in high sec. If I should happen to find one in 0.0, it will die so fast anyway that it won't matter (and if it lives long enough for someone else to try to save it, so much the better, we all get a fight out of it!).

Fozzie's job here was not actually to make the DCU less useful, it was to slip through a small nerf to freighter ganking with the minimum amount of teeth-gnashing and frothing at the mouth. I'd say he did this pretty well.

The job wouldn't be done though, because any ship that used to use the DC would be losing a chunk of their defense while any ship that didn't use the DC wouldn't lose a thing, so it would be a direct nerf to a whole range of fits.

Indeed it would. And that would be a good thing.

To be honest, the whole childish "any time something is reduced in power (nerfed) it's a bad thing for the universe" mantra grinds my gears.

hey guys what about smartbombing?

After DC going to be passive, there is just very little chance to smartbomb interceptor, scanning or kite (no one forget turn on DC anymore) ship in one alone smartbomb BS.... :-( is there plan to boost smartbombs a little?

cant believe i read the first 7 pages about freighters but i don't think ima like it cause i have a 2 billion isk nestor ive been runnin and i liked that the t2 dc was top of the line i got the best shield booster the best shield amps 2 pithum c type hardeners got a faction cpu and power diagnostic and now my damage control is no longer going to be the best and if i wanted anything up there like the best shield hardener cost bout what 5bisk when there available damage controls are used how much more often than dcs witch means the price is going to be even higher so what im getting at is my top of the lien ship is no longer the best and ima have to put more billions of isk into it getting it back up there.
i think they should give everyone one of the top of the line dcs when they release them