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Open petition against EVElopedia closure

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TrustMe I'amIngener
Stars.KADMUS
#81 - 2016-03-03 07:10:06 UTC
Signed.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2016-03-03 07:32:26 UTC
One interesting detail: If you searches for something on google UniWiki and evlopedia where the first 2 hits. So Evelopedia was used a lot.

Second: Will CCP distribute Webspace to the player Wikis? They are saving all the money for updating the evelopedia so they should at least give free webspace to the people that will do their job
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#83 - 2016-03-03 08:31:23 UTC
Signed
PAPULA
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#84 - 2016-03-03 08:32:07 UTC
Signed
Feodor Mihailovici
Mare Anguis
#85 - 2016-03-03 09:02:01 UTC
Signed !

Evelopedia was one of the best sources of information, this is how I essentially learned everything I know about Eve. CCP says that there are other sites which contain data which was in the Evelopedia, that is not true. Excellent articles like the mineral yield in PI with all planet requirements, Project Atlas with all types of wormholes and where and from where they lead and a plethora of other information was to be found ONLY on Evelopedia.

CCP, PLEASE put Evelopedia back online !
Jake Torston
Beermen's Souls
#86 - 2016-03-03 11:16:40 UTC
Singed

Just bring it back please.
Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
Brotherhood of Spacers
#87 - 2016-03-03 15:03:22 UTC
Signed.

Removing Evelopedia seriously hampers my enjoyment of the game. Bring it back please (there, I've asked nicely).

Quality Assurance Recruiting intrepid explorers and BlOps/Cov Ops combat enthusiasts

Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#88 - 2016-03-03 15:27:05 UTC
Biggest gripe I have is they didn't make a replacement for the lore the day they closed evelopedia.

Seems to be lots of people assuming there wasn't any work done by those that are signing.. I've tidied up a couple sites ... it's not much.. but tbh I didn't consider myself enough of an authority to make those kinds of changes. (been with Eve Online for 10 months) Also worth mentioning that I'm an accountant, not a hacker so what would take one of you guys 5 minutes to do a simple website edit takes me like an hour..

I agree there was a bit of a lacking community on that part. Or it was hard to find.

@lunettelulu7

Mashie Saldana
French Drop-O-Panache
Snuffed Out
#89 - 2016-03-03 15:27:52 UTC
Faryl Hanaya
Faire des Tas
#90 - 2016-03-03 16:14:05 UTC
Signed.

I miss all the lore.
I don't care if I was the only one reading my character's story page.
At least I felt like I was part of this universe. I felt I could do some real RP. I felt like Watson writting Sherlock's adventure !

And a read only web site won't bring this back.
Deej Montana
Iteria Strategic Systems
#91 - 2016-03-04 07:14:31 UTC
Signed!
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#92 - 2016-03-04 08:53:23 UTC
Faryl Hanaya wrote:
Signed.

I miss all the lore.
I don't care if I was the only one reading my character's story page.
At least I felt like I was part of this universe. I felt I could do some real RP. I felt like Watson writting Sherlock's adventure !

And a read only web site won't bring this back.

Saved your page from Google cache. Thank you, Google cache.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2016-03-04 21:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Definitely signed

I see a lot of people posting that nobody contributed to or kept Evelopedia updated. Well they are wrong.

I created / updated a lot of Cosmic Anomaly / Cosmic Signature pages in Evelopedia and also updated / completed Exploration site pages that were created and left unfinished by other players. I also created / updated / completed a lot of Escalation Expedition pages. I also created / updated most of the Event Agent pages such as Tutorial Agents (retired by CCP), Career Agents, Circle Agents, Data Center Agents and extensively updated the Cosmos Agents page as well. I also contributed / updated the Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar Cosmos guides that were written in the Evelopedia and created quite a few Agent pages.

Not to mention I also contributed to and updated the Epic Arc Agents page. Also while running those Epic Arcs, I updated their Evelopedia mission pages at the same time I was creating / updating Epic Arc pages in Eve Survival. I also created a character / pilot page and contributed to plenty of other Evelopedia pages with minor updates such as fixing typo's, correcting grammar, redoing sentence / paragraph structure, etc. Last but not least I created and contributed the Faction Standing Repair Plan.

I'm not listing all of this for recognition, it's simply to prove that there was indeed people trying to improve and help keep Evelopedia up to date for the Eve Online Community.

The problem with Evelopedia is that CCP would not update the initial Database and would constantly change things in game with little to no given notice. Updating Evelopedia was then done after the fact by sheer discovery which quickly became outdated due to more changes being done by CCP in game.

Keeping Evelopedia updated soon became an overwhelming task. To make matters worse the owners / creators of the other 3rd party wiki's, who first got most of their initial info from Evelopedia to begin with, decided to promote and advertise their own wiki's instead of helping to keep the Official Eve Wiki updated..

Feodor Mihailovici wrote:
Signed !

Evelopedia was one of the best sources of information, this is how I essentially learned everything I know about Eve. CCP says that there are other sites which contain data which was in the Evelopedia, that is not true. Excellent articles like the mineral yield in PI with all planet requirements, Project Atlas with all types of wormholes and where and from where they lead and a plethora of other information was to be found ONLY on Evelopedia.

CCP, PLEASE put Evelopedia back online !


I agree 100%. The main thing I liked about Evelopedia was it's ease of access with the in-game browser.

koenkoard wrote:
Signed.

WTF is wrong with CCP? Stop taking bad decisions already. It’s almost like they wanted ppl to stop playing the game altogether...

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Basically CCP is self-destructing.



DMC
Zappity
Exit-Strategy
Unchained Alliance
#94 - 2016-03-05 03:56:05 UTC
I went to look up which were the rookie systems today. It strikes me that there ought to be an official source for critical information.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

alindak Kahoudi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2016-03-05 04:45:44 UTC
What hurts the most it’s that they try to insult your intelligence with excuses taken out of their 4sses... According to them there’s several more complete sources of information all over.. BS. Tried to look up sansha 7/10 DED today to see what anomaly produced that escalation and the first 6-7 results were the wiki. The rest didn’t have the information I was looking for. So that crap about ppl not using the tool is PURE and UTTER BS.
Sere O'Asis
Desert Oasis Investigations
#96 - 2016-03-05 05:51:08 UTC
Signed.



When I started playing, EVElopedia made surviving EVE's initial learning cliff possible.

The official tutorials were totally inadequate, and I was not going to pester my corp mates into new clones with all my questions (even though they bravely answered all the questions I put to them), so EVElopedia was open, and consulted, constantly during my first six months of play.



Indahmawar Fazmarai
#97 - 2016-03-05 07:56:24 UTC
Since this thread (miraculously) still stays on course...

Signed.

CCP is responsible for documenting their software to the end user. Neglecting that work and relaying it to unpaid volunteers aka users is unethical and cheap.

Also removing the lore pages before having a replacement site for them is shoddy at best.



PS: Would be funny if CCP had DOWNSIZED their data center to the point that even a small web service such as the Evelopedia mattered... Lol

Sim Cognito
Obani Gemini Corporation
#98 - 2016-03-05 15:47:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sim Cognito
Research Abstract: Project Trinity links to evelopedia from in-game. Of course, all you get is the discontinuation notice now. I don't get why evelopedia couldn't stay at least in a limited capacity for EVE universe information.

EDIT: Specifically http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan


The page that provided a basic overview for Arek Jaalan is now gone, even if in-game links and Google point to it. How exactly is this beneficial to EVE?
Darkblad
#99 - 2016-03-05 23:47:52 UTC
Sim Cognito wrote:
Research Abstract: Project Trinity links to evelopedia from in-game. Of course, all you get is the discontinuation notice now. I don't get why evelopedia couldn't stay at least in a limited capacity for EVE universe information.

EDIT: Specifically http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan


The page that provided a basic overview for Arek Jaalan is now gone, even if in-game links and Google point to it. How exactly is this beneficial to EVE?
Items currently still pointing to the EVElopedia from their descripion are many of the Arek'Jaalan Documents, Pax Ammaria, Loyalty Points and ... Probe Launchers:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11i-quMuz5aMVkzA9Lq9l67decSPXN8HyXkcrrbBDayc/edit#gid=0

Unfortunately, I don't see CCP considering anything in regards of the wiki, not just the lore portal but also player created information on pages about e.g. Solar Systems and Items.
Fabrizio Faggetino
Doomheim
#100 - 2016-03-06 12:26:59 UTC
Signed

。.:・°☆ FABRIZIO 。.:・°☆