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Atheos Athonille
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-03-02 05:15:40 UTC
I have a friend that I work with that use to play this game religiously(no longer).

He occasionally gives me advice, but it's hard to translate it by myself once I'm home. But he also mentioned that this game is very difficult the longer you go without joining a solid Corporation.


How do I go about joining a Corporation? What exactly is a Corporation? How do I keep up with what my Corporation is doing, what the other players that are in it are doing, etc?

Are there any specific Corporations for starters to join (For PvP specifically)?


Isk making:

I only have about 2.2 million isk.
Ships: A Venture, Atron, Breacher and Heron.

I have absolutely no fittings. I have no idea what happened to my fittings, but I'm sure it has somethign to do with being offline for about a year from this account.


How can I invest my current Isk into making a steady income, or to collect proper materials to make my own ships using blueprints?
Are there specific places to sell raw materials for most profit?

Any advice is most helpful !


As a side note,
I've only been back online for 2 days. Today, I spent a few hours just messing with menus, reading the tooltips, and refamiliarizing myself with navigating.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2016-03-02 05:50:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-03-02 06:00:09 UTC
There is a sticky at the top of this subsection of the forum:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331341&find=unread

That is a good place to start when wanting to read up on how to find a corp that is right for you.

Yes there are corps that are good starter corps for new players looking to get into PvP. Which one is right for you depends on what it is that you are looking for and your goals and personality type.

There are large null sec sov holding alliances that have starter corps or are just newbie friendly alliance wide. Some of these would be groups like Brave Newbies or Pandemic Horde, I'm pretty sure Goonswarm has one also I'm just drawing a blank on what it is called. These are very large groups that have structures in place to get you ships and fleets. It is easy to get lost in the crowd in groups like that. They provide you with the tools but you have to be self motivated, read up and ask questions. If you are not actively involving yourself you can feel "lost in the crowd"

There is Eve Uni and other similar corps that have official training structures and operate much like a college where there are classes that you can sign up for and attend as well as pre-recorded lectures on various topics. Eve Uni can be difficult to get into however much of their material is available to the general public as well so you don't necessarily need to join them to make use of their help.

There are corps like RvB ( Red versus Blue which is really two separate alliances ) which are perpetually at war with each other and provide a structure for engaging in PvP in high sec without having all the politics of null sec.

There are various ways to get into faction warfare which is a way to PvP and make isk doing so. There are player corps that exist in FW but you would have to find one that works for you.

There are also various null sec Alliances that would be happy to take in new players and help them along as well as give them instant access to fleet roams and the earning potential of null sec but which don't have official structures. If you go into any NRDS space and start asking around in local or do some digging through recruitment ads or the forums you might find others in NBSI space but if you want to travel to NBSI space you'll have to sneak in as you will be shot on sight if not blue to them.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-03-02 06:25:43 UTC
Atheos Athonille wrote:

I have absolutely no fittings. I have no idea what happened to my fittings, but I'm sure it has somethign to do with being offline for about a year from this account.

The game does not take away your stuff. If it was there 10 years ago and you logged off and never played the game again then it should still be there waiting for you to return to the game.
Atheos Athonille wrote:

How can I invest my current Isk into making a steady income, or to collect proper materials to make my own ships using blueprints?

This is not a simple question. This is a sandbox and you can make isk doing pretty much anything. The real question is not how can you make isk but what is it that you like to do. Figure out what you like to do and we can help you make isk doing that.

Some common things that we tell new players to try out are exploration and PI or Planetary interaction. Of course there are also the old stand-bys like mining or mission running or complexes and anoms. I've mentioned faction warfare in my last post.

Collecting your own materials to make stuff for yourself is something that can be done but it is no way to earn income. I do it all the time but I do it for the fun of doing it. In this game the market is very deep and famous in MMO gaming. If you are looking to make isk in trade or industry then you need to focus on making isk and not getting what you need.

For example if you wanted to build ships to sell for profit then you would do market research and find a niche for yourself and make and sell those ships that fit into your business model. If those ships happen to also be the ships that you fly then you could use some for yourself however if not then you would buy the ships that you use and sell the ships that you build. Local markets will determine this for you.
Atheos Athonille wrote:

Are there specific places to sell raw materials for most profit?

Again the market is very deep in this game. A phrase like "most profit" is a very gray thing made to sound extremely black and white. You can find places that potentially could give you the "most profit" as far as highest selling price but who's to say when and if the stuff will sell and how much time you will waste moving stuff around chasing after that "highest margin".

We have trade hubs in the game where people go to buy and sell things. Stuff usually moves pretty quickly at those hubs but you can get stuck playing the 0.01 isk game if you want to be the one getting the sell order. You can also sell your stuff to buy orders for instant isk but at a lower price.

Again this will come down to what it is that you want to do and your business model. You might be better off worrying about doing more of what you do to make isk than worrying about chasing after the highest margin.

An example would be if you were an avid mission runner and wanted to cash in some of your loyalty points. You could spend all day crunching numbers trying to figure out which items will get you the most isk / LP and then you could figure out where in the game you can sell those to get the highest margin and spend another day traveling around and messing with prices to get stuff to sell. However if you are making 200 million isk per night running missions and you only make an extra 35 million isk on your LP item sales over what you would have got by just selling to the highest buy order on your local market then you might be better served just running missions for those 2 evenings and just buying LP items with decent returns and selling them to local buy orders.


Atheos Athonille wrote:

As a side note,
I've only been back online for 2 days. Today, I spent a few hours just messing with menus, reading the tooltips, and refamiliarizing myself with navigating.

IMHO this is time well spent.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#5 - 2016-03-02 13:38:59 UTC
When looking into a corp there is one part often overlooked in the advice given.

A small corp with few players / characters can be a good place to start, better to be one of a few than lost among the many type of idea.

There are many corps that can and do help new players all the time but choose not to advertise or promote themselves. Advertising or promoting your corp as new player friendly has almost as many negatives aspects as it does positives depending on your point of view.

Do not expect to find a corp right now that will be good to stay with for the rest of your time in EvE because your needs/wants for a corp may change over time so choose one that can help you now and then change later when you have a better idea what you want to do in the game.

Communication between corp mates is dependent on the corp. Some rely on the text chat or in game voice while others maintain a voice com like Team Speak or Mumble. I was in a corp for awhile that was filled with amateur radio enthusiasts and they used 2 way radios for their coms, claimed it added to the experience.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#6 - 2016-03-02 14:21:33 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:

Communication between corp mates is dependent on the corp. Some rely on the text chat or in game voice while others maintain a voice com like Team Speak or Mumble. I was in a corp for awhile that was filled with amateur radio enthusiasts and they used 2 way radios for their coms, claimed it added to the experience.


Well, for a radio enthusiast, I'm sure it would :)

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Solun Usoko
Ancestors Circle
#7 - 2016-03-02 17:50:40 UTC
Atheos Athonille wrote:
Isk making:

I only have about 2.2 million isk.
Ships: A Venture, Atron, Breacher and Heron.

I have absolutely no fittings. I have no idea what happened to my fittings, but I'm sure it has somethign to do with being offline for about a year from this account.

How can I invest my current Isk into making a steady income, or to collect proper materials to make my own ships using blueprints?
Are there specific places to sell raw materials for most profit?

I recently started a trial as well, after a long hiatus. Doing all the Career Agent missions, Opportunities, and the SoE epic arc netted me about 22M over the course of a few days, plus a handful of free ships. Not bad for <500k SP. You may not want to take the same path, but that was my nest egg to build an L2 PvE destroyer and an exploration ship. Missions will help you grind LP which you can convert to ISK via the open market (sell your loyalty rewards, make sure to check a site like fuzzworks to see what items have a good return), and scanning sites can yield decent money when you don't feel like missioning. Scanning can also net you nothing but cobwebs, if your luck is lousy. You can make it more exciting by trying it in lowsec, but be sure you are watching the map (jumps per hour, pilots active in space) and are all over your d-scan like stink on doodoo. Always watch Local.

Getting into small scale PvP can be fun, but in the beginning you may get 1-2 engagements and suddenly you're down 10M with very little practical experience to show for it. This is where you are right to look for a Corp to specializes in this. Don't expect a perfect fit, don't be afraid to talk to recruiters or members in local or private convos. If you land somewhere that is uncomfortable, you are free to move on without reservation, so I dont recommend staying in a corp you don't like. In all likelihood, though, you will probably be pleased with the feel of playing with an active Corp, even a small outfit of 5-10 pilots.

Good luck, watch your six. o7
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2016-03-02 23:46:39 UTC
Atheos Athonille wrote:
I have absolutely no fittings. I have no idea what happened to my fittings, but I'm sure it has somethign to do with being offline for about a year from this account.
If you open your assets window (it's on the taskbar to the left of the screen) and set the filter to region or all you'll be able to see where all your stuff is.

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Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2016-03-04 19:54:50 UTC
I will post my usual suggestion of finding a good null sec corp and applying. Any sov alliance worth it's POCO's will offer an SRP, free skill books, free training, and often free ships as needed. When you aren't out in a fleet of friends doing some pew pew, you can enjoy PvE in upgraded space, also with friends. The Maze 10/10 is an achievement solo, but a lot more fun with a friend.

In a large organization such as The Imperium, you can open your fleet finder any time of the day or night and find no less than a dozen and often 20+ fleets to choose from. Everything from small gang roams, Blops, high sec ganking, team PvE, gate camps, and of course node melting super battles fought in 10% TiDi. If it undocks, we have a fleet of them somewhere about to be whelped. Lol

Another option if you really wanted to avoid PvP for some reason- is the various renter corps under the sov blocs. There you can just PvE till the cows come home and leave the fighting to others. This is organized PvE, not the grab bag of loners in belts/missions in high sec. If you want to mine null sec ores in a large, dedicated fleet full of boosts, haulers, and protection- there is no easier way.


Having said all that....there is nothing saying that you have to Min/Max to make isk. There are chat channels for things like mission running. Offer to help people complete missions. That would be a cool way to explore specific fleet roles like boosting, or logi as well. Most people just want max isk/hour but you'll find some that are...gasp...interested in the content and gameplay of Eve.

You don't have to join a corp or alliance to be social in Eve, but it's vastly harder.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#10 - 2016-03-04 21:09:27 UTC
Alaric Faelen wrote:
I will post my usual suggestion of finding a good null sec corp and applying. Any sov alliance worth it's POCO's will offer an SRP, free skill books, free training, and often free ships as needed. When you aren't out in a fleet of friends doing some pew pew, you can enjoy PvE in upgraded space, also with friends. The Maze 10/10 is an achievement solo, but a lot more fun with a friend.

In a large organization such as The Imperium, you can open your fleet finder any time of the day or night and find no less than a dozen and often 20+ fleets to choose from. Everything from small gang roams, Blops, high sec ganking, team PvE, gate camps, and of course node melting super battles fought in 10% TiDi. If it undocks, we have a fleet of them somewhere about to be whelped. Lol


This is a newbie forum. So just to clarify some of your points.
SRP = Ship Reimbursment Plan
POCO - Player Owned Customs Office

TiDi - Time Dialation - an innovative way that CCP decided to compensate for Server Lag caused by large scale player events. Basically when the server detects that lag spikes are imminent it increases the duration of the local tick until all instructions are calculated, then the next tick happens. This can result in the normal 1 second tick becoming much longer. Everything switches to slow motion, which makes battles etc take longer, but at least it minimizes players crashing out or being unable to activate modules or react to ongoing events.

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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-03-06 01:14:42 UTC
I have never joined a corporation and done fine.

If you are brand new, I would advise waiting before joining a corp. What I see in other characters is large numbers of corp hopping. It is not unusual to look at the employment history of a player and see 20 different corps in 4 years. From that you can infer finding a good one is not easy. Being in a bad corp will not really help you and if you join a corp and it is wardecced then you can be shot on sight anywhere, including empire. The last thing you want as a new player is to be constantly looking over your shoulder because there are people trying to hunt you down and kill you constantly.

One corporation to consider is EVE University which is a learning corp and has a lot of people in it.

Do not worry too much about money. It is more important to find a niche you like. Once you get good at something you will make money at it. How much money you make is more a function of how good you are at something than what it is.
Memphis Baas
#12 - 2016-03-06 04:39:19 UTC
Don't go dating, it's hard to find the one; look at all these other people who have 10-20 dates and no marriage. Just stay at home and the right guy/gal will find you.

You can make lots of money staying at home, too, it doesn't matter what you do. You just have to get good at it, like really good at it. I mean, at the staying part, and at the at home part.
Boci
Ubiquitous Hurt
The WeHurt Initiative
#13 - 2016-03-06 15:20:31 UTC
Atheos Athonille wrote:
and Heron.


If you only have 2.2mil ISK right now, and a heron, you are well on your way to getting a cash stockpile built up...or at least enough to start migrating towards other avenues of cash.

High Sec data/relic hacking can surpass low end combat missions/sites in terms of cash per hour.

All you need is your Heron, equipped with a Cargo Scanner, a Data Analyzer and a Relic Analyzer, and the following skills trained to 3, eventually 4.
Archaeology
Astrometric Acquisition
Astrometric Pinpointing
Astrometric Rangefinding
Astrometrics
Hacking
Survey (3 is honeslty plenty here)

Alternatively, push F12 and click Show Career Agents, and do them all. And then go to the next career agent system and do them again. And then a third time...full list can be seen here: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Tutorials_-_Opportunities_and_Career_Agents_in_EVE_Online#Career_Agents_and_Systems

Lots of free ships and isk in the process, and a decent reintroduction to mechanics involved in basically everything.

http://www.twitch.tv/bociwen - Newbie Friendly Q&A, Terrible Solo PvP

@BociSammiches

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Atheos Athonille
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-03-06 15:49:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Atheos Athonille
Hey guys, thanks for the responses. Just in the past few days I've scooted around null sec and wh space with some basic frigates and my Venture, and I stumbled upon enough Ore to bank me a bit over 5 billion Isk. There was a lot of wreckage outside of a wormhole with some rare Ores and sold it all in Amarr space. (took like 15 freakin trips to haul of that Ore)
I guess I got lucky.


I used quite a bit of that Isk buying Skill Injectors to fit and pilot a Jackdaw for PvP.


What I'm piloting now:
Jackdaw


[Rocket Launcher II x5] [Mjolnir Rage Rocket]

[Small Ancillary Current Router II]
[Small Bay Loading Accelerator I]

[Pithium C-Type Medium Shield Booster]
[Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler]
[Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I]
[Navy Federation 1MN Afterburner]
[Adaptive Invulnerability Field II]

[Dread Guristes Stasis Webifier]
[Damage Control II]
[Ballistic Control System II]

With about 400 million Isk left over.


Now I'm just looking for a corp :l
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#15 - 2016-03-06 20:49:43 UTC
Atheos Athonille wrote:
Hey guys, thanks for the responses. Just in the past few days I've scooted around null sec and wh space with some basic frigates and my Venture, and I stumbled upon enough Ore to bank me a bit over 5 billion Isk. There was a lot of wreckage outside of a wormhole with some rare Ores and sold it all in Amarr space. (took like 15 freakin trips to haul of that Ore)
I guess I got lucky.



In more ways than one. Be glad whomever blew up that freighter and left that wreckage full of ore didn't just hang around waiting for someone to come back for the ore.

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