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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#301 - 2016-02-28 06:11:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Entry Thirty-five: Fortitude

(or: "Maybe More Miz's Cup of Tea")

So-- there's a limit to what masochism can do for you. I say that, and I believe it; absent cybernetic rewiring or maybe a severe mental illness, no one likes getting a broken leg.

Like a lot of bits of "knowledge" I'm pretty sure of, though, that one gets challenged sometimes.

The other case the Directrix assigned me to is someone whose name I don't really need to change because (1) Nauplius will recognize him instantly anyway and (2) he insisted that I don't, so, here:

His name's Chaduk Arahi Vasich Dauhagin.

This is the person who had the ten (TEN!) different flavors of Vitoc. Just him. Personally. He started as a Group Three (six Vitoc strains), but apparently Nauplius took a personal interest.

Insubordination: chronic. Possibly pathological stubborn streak. Constitution to match. Presumably Nauplius kept this one alive because he made a good hobby.

Every so often you hear about someone like this, whose stamina and willpower (and ego) just seems kind of heroic. Or ... something. Stereotypically, he'd be a Brutor, but, nope-- Vherokior. Apparently he's a third-generation (and "elite") slave who wound up on the open market (cheap) because his previous Holder found him unmanageable.

That's not something I got out of a file. That's him boasting happily while a bunch of doctors scramble to try and work out the mixture of Vitoc strains that'll keep his organs from shutting down.

He did not mistake me for a sefrim. He did make an off-color remark within two minutes of meeting me, while theoretically under sedation. Physically, he was in really rough shape. Spiritually ... not so much. Torture'll break anyone, eventually, but whatever Chaduk's limit is, I don't think Nauplius got around to reaching it.

("The Butcher" taking an interest might have been a mercy, here. Expert help's probably not hard to come by in the Sani, but if Nauplius wanted to break Chaduk personally, well-- Nauplius himself has so very many other luckless fish to fry.)

(Note: I am not saying that torture is a reliable way of obtaining information. "Break" means "put into a state where the subject will do or say anything to make the pain stop." That means providing a torrent of whatever will bring even a moment's respite, which is a different creature from "reliable intel.")

(It's a perfectly good way of extracting a confession or whatever [not a true one, necessarily], if that's all that's desired, though.)

(Or of terrorizing a population.)

(I do not want to know how I know these things, even if I kind of already do.)

The amount of satisfaction Chaduk takes in not being in that tower any more, that first time I meet him, is hard to overstate; he's just lying there smiling while doctors and medics bustle and his comrades in captivity wail and pray and occasionally vomit blood. After a few minutes, I realize he never expects to get off that bed. He's got some idea just how complicated the Vitoc "key" for him is going to be, and there are way more lives at stake than just him.

It doesn't matter. He's out. He's won.

(Never mind that he's back in Amarrian custody; he's not going to have to cross that bridge because he's going to expire, shortly.)

He passes the time with me recounting his epic battle with The Butcher, which he makes sound like some sort of adventure story.

Almost. He goes quiet at times, when he's talking about friends. There's a thread of pain, underlying the braggadocio, a keen recollection of friends lost, spirits snuffed out. Sacrifices. Murders. He deals with his own mistreatment like it's a light thing, buoyed by ego, savoring his own successful endurance of what he's sure was Nauplius's worst (I'm a little skeptical). But the ordeals others went through....

It's hard to be brave on someone else's behalf. (Without looking like a psychopath, maybe.)

Those moments pass, though, and we're on to another chapter. I just listen. To Chaduk, it's already over; what he most wants, now, is a witness, so I give him one.

What we're both unaware of, and Nauplius is probably unaware of, but the doctors are increasingly working out, is that the "key" for Chaduk isn't going to actually be all that complicated. Nauplius doesn't actually understand Vitoc all that well, so he presumably said something like, "Stuff him with Vitoc until his eyes bulge!" and some loyal minion hopped to obey-- by putting Chaduk in four different addiction groups....

... Which have a lot of overlap. And all of which are being worked on feverishly.

So, as it turns out, Chaduk's biggest problem is also the biggest problem for Miri and half the rest of our temporarily-refugee-camp-like medical bay: Nauplius's in-house Vitoc strain. Once that gets solved, Chaduk's left facing something he hadn't expected. He's going to live.

He wasn't really ready for that. It's kind of a problem. He was perfectly willing to be our patient, but now he's feeling more like our prisoner, and that's an issue. His rescuers are looking less like an honor guard for a dying hero and more like the latest in his line of intensely resented owners.

That includes me.

So, the sexual harassment begins. Or resumes. He offers to bed me, then immediately withdraws the offer, saying he wouldn't want to break me in half. He asks whether all Achura are such sickly little sticks, and comes up with a theory on the spot that Achur men are actually trees, then goes on to speculate about Achur mating customs and procedures. When I mention that my father was Civire, he declares my father a pedophile. And so on.

We sort of reach a detente when, in fishing for more material, he asks what my title, "Peregrinans," means. "Traveler," I tell him. I explain that I'm not actually of the faith; that I'm a visitor from abroad.

Things go more easily, after that.

[cont'd]
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#302 - 2016-02-28 06:14:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Chaduk is curious about a lot of things. To start with: what in all the worlds I'm actually doing there in an Amarrian facility chatting away with an Amarrian slave without either being Amarrian or having an Amarrian slave collar around my scrawny neck. I'm not sure I ever explained this to his satisfaction. His parents and grandparents had been slaves-- had died in slavery-- so the idea of some hapless little thing like me wandering around loose wearing something as ephemeral as "being a guest" (not to say capsuleer) as my protection seemed ... well, multiple layers of wrong, I guess.

A typical exchange might go like this:

Chaduk: "But why are you here?"

Me: "I want to see, with clear eyes."

Chaduk: "Well, you see. So why are you here?"

The whole notion of me finding any sort of spiritual guidance from any Amarrian is a topic I really avoid. Chaduk doesn't say as much, but it's obvious that the whole spiritual indoctrination routine really hasn't taken. Like, at all-- not Nauplius's version, and not the Empire's. Instead, there's a familiar, slow-burning resentment. Even as they've scrambled to save his life, Chaduk hasn't seen the Amarr as people worth learning from. They're the adversary. There's a whiff of the demonic in the way he talks about them. Nauplius, in his mind, isn't different in type; only in degree.

In a weird way, I think Chaduk and The Butcher see more eye to eye with each other than with the Directrix or me-- if only through the surface of a mirror. Nauplius sees the Amarrian faith as one of blood, power, and conquest; Chaduk would absolutely agree. For him, Nauplius is his every belief about the Empire, vindicated.

As he begins to understand the details of his situation better, therefore, Chaduk starts to approach his time in the Society's care like a fighter resting between matches. The Directrix is a pointless target-- she's not a Holder, and has no real authority over him. The enemy he has his eye on is the one he'll have in a few more days or weeks. In the meantime, he rests up and gets himself back in shape, mentally and physically, for what's to come.

I still don't think I'm a comprehensible person to him, at any point, but he accepts that I'm, at most, tangentially a foe, even if I'm not precisely a friend. He readies himself, and lets me bear witness, unharassed. More or less.

It's possible that whatever Holder is now in possession of Chaduk-- assuming he hasn't been freed-- will act on this information in some way. I also have no doubt at all that Chaduk is expecting it.

I wish both theoretical Holder and nominal slave the best of luck.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#303 - 2016-02-28 12:09:31 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
I could also point out that it's not my decision to make. That's also true.


You're a capsuleer. You easily have the power to do almost anything you want. You choose not to make the decision to use that power, and thus the responsibility for your inaction remains yours. That is part of what we spoke of yesterday. When we come into positions like ours, especially as somewhat veteran capsuleers with wealth and experience, we have to consciously choose inaction or deference to various systems and societal structures because in reality we aren't constrained by them like your average citizen of any nation.

Since these things are our choices, the outcomes always become our responsibility as well, opening all of us to a much higher degree of criticism and scrutiny as well. It's the part of capsuleerdom that goes mostly ignored by most of us, because it's the unpleasant part, but it remains true nonetheless.

I have chosen to adhere to certain cultural mores and principles, along with my own personal principles, but that also means that since I'm the one making that choice as a free capsuleer, I am also the one who carries the responsibility when adhering to them causes harm.

We were talking of disappointment, yes? That is what disappoints me the most about most capsuleers. Forever refusing taking responsibility for ones actions, or inaction. There is this strange mindset that we should not only be entirely free, powerful and wealthy, but also immune from consequences, criticism and responsibility as well. You consider me as having severe personality flaws, which is fair enough if you're being honest about it, but I'd say this pathological denial of accountability that is so endemic amongst us is a far more serious personality flaw.

As for Chaduk Arahi Vasich Dauhagin, your name has been put as a priority in the Network. Stay alive and on your feet. One of the countless groups of freedom fighters working in the shadows of the Empire will find you, and with a little bit of capsuleer assistance you might find that while you'll always have enemies before you... you'll have friends behind you.

Ah, the wonders of modern bureaucracy and communication. A single name and a few personal details released to the public and a Holder will be identified and made vulnerable to some very unpleasant attention. If nothing else, at least I can make these people face the consequences of their actions and choices.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#304 - 2016-02-28 15:25:09 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

So, the sexual harassment begins. Or resumes. He offers to bed me, then immediately withdraws the offer, saying he wouldn't want to break me in half. He asks whether all Achura are such sickly little sticks, and comes up with a theory on the spot that Achur men are actually trees, then goes on to speculate about Achur mating customs and procedures. When I mention that my father was Civire, he declares my father a pedophile. And so on.


I am going to say this firmly yet respectfully. You and Lady Aspenstar are the most pathetic excuses for slaveowners that I have ever encountered and your actions border on treason. To allow a slave to get away with mouthing off against his overseer like this is utterly intolerable, even among moderate-to-liberal slaveowners. At minimum, this slave should have been flayed to within an inch of his life; even moderate to marginally conservative slaveowners would have cut out the slave's tongue on the spot and force fed it to him. Ordinary orthodox conservative slaveowners might have preceeded the tongue cutting by standard torture and followed the tongue-cutting with a public hanging, drawing, and quartering of the filthy slave.

Any shock that you, Lady Aspenstar, or any other so-called Amarrian loyalist feels at reading the above paragraph reveals just how wayward and liberal you have become. Not only do you fail to perform any of these punishments, you let the slave continue in his insubordination day after day, corrupting by his example all other slaves in the vicinity and putting his and their future owners in jeopardy, and by the end of it, you suggest (horror of horrors) that this slave may have even been granted manumission! Were you not pilots, such dangerous behavior could well have attracted the attention of the MIO or some other authorities. Perhaps I should welcome you to the club of pilots who can no longer safely set foot on Amarr planets for fear of legal entanglements.

I suppose one good thing has come of this, Lady Jenneth — you have stepped away from the false ideology of moral relativism, in practice if not in theory. There is far too much righteous indignation in these last posts (proclaiming that you will skin alive certain members of my staff) for a practicing moral relativist. You have decided to stand against something, even if you do not yet stand for very much. Do not, however, like Samira Kernher, Tamiroth, and Lady Aspenstar before you, allow yourself to be consumed by anti-Naupliusism; do not become cold and bitter like them and close your heart to the Red God, becoming creatures of hate even as they accuse me of being the same.

And for God's sake, if you're going to become an Amarrian, learn when and how to whip an uppity slave — it is quite obvious Lady Aspenstar is woefully unqualified to teach you this. Even so, may the Blood Age come quickly. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#305 - 2016-02-28 18:05:27 UTC
Mr. Nauplius,

I'm not a Holder. Neither is Directrix Aspenstar. Under Imperial law, which she is loyal to and I abide by as a guest, neither of us are permitted to own slaves.

My role was to console and counsel people you harmed, not to "discipline" them. You seem to have done plenty of that with Chaduk already, for all the good it did. My job was to form a degree of trust and help him adjust. I particularly was not about to rise to the bait of a man daring me to show what he suspects to be my true colors by trading physical pain for words.

As for relativism: you and those who follow and serve you have always been upsetting to me. I normally try to keep an even keel, but your overachieving minion is not at all the first person I've thought was horrible.

Unless my feelings fade by the time I find those responsible, I will put them to death in a very painful way. It's not that I think this is the right thing to do, exactly. It's more that I've seen too much harm come from this person, or these people, to just let this pass.

What neither you nor Miz seem to understand is that relativism doesn't mean withholding judgment in all cases. It means that my sense of what is right, or wrong, depends on context.

Maybe, in the end, I'll turn out to have exaggerated my will to do harm. But when it really comes down to it I've seen so much pain coming from you and your followers that I can barely stay civil. You and yours have built a context for me. The only question now is whether I have the will and opportunity to follow through.

Torture's not really a thing I think of as "something I would do." Skinning a person alive probably counts. Then again, I'm also someone who can kill for almost no reason, so....

Still, it's probably more likely that I'll just ventilate the poor fool's brain pan. I might even just turn them over to someone with more of a stake in all of this. (I'm no good at grudges.)

For all I know, the person responsible is already in Amarrian custody, or died when the tower fell.

If not....

I don't think the universe shares my judgment. I don't think it judges. ... But in this case, I'm pretty okay with being a consequence.

We'll see whether I still feel that way, when and if I get my shot.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#306 - 2016-02-28 19:25:05 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Mr. Nauplius,

I'm not a Holder. Neither is Directrix Aspenstar. Under Imperial law, which she is loyal to and I abide by as a guest, neither of us are permitted to own slaves.


This makes no sense. Your corporation has chosen to possess slaves for an extended period of time, not allowing them to leave. It is altogether right to judge your de facto slaveholding practices by Amarrian norms. SFRIM is supposed to be an Amarr Loyalist Corporation, that is, despite your general immunity to the law as pilots, you at least try to make some effort to adhere to Imperial norms. Yet your failures in slave discipline would embarrass even Amarrian holders at the most liberal end of orthodoxy. You are completely beyond the pale in what you are letting slaves get away with. If my moral enemy, Samira Kernher, were reading this, she would be as vehement in her criticism as I am, if not more so (her ex-holder would have cut tongues, and rightfully so).

Lady Aspenstar — I'm calling you out. Perhaps your pupil, Lady Jenneth has merely gone a bit astray and you yourself are guilty only of poor oversight. If so, then please make a statement — your silence permits dangerous, too-liberal ideas to spread around your corporation and the Amarr bloc generally.

PIE Members — I'm calling you out, too. Your alliance has gone hopelessly wayward and liberal, but perhaps some of you retain just enough traces of orthodoxy in your wayward and liberal minds to realize that part of the Amarr bloc has gone seriously astray, here. Help bring SFRIM back into orthodoxy, if only the far left end of it.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#307 - 2016-02-28 20:49:39 UTC
*Slow clap.*

Ladies and Gentlemen. The Despair and Desperation of the woefull Villain. Are things finally starting to make you uncomfortable? Is it getting through to your thick head you might somehow be wrong?

I, for one, welcome a progressive attitude. I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing the revolutionising policies of Her Majesty Empress Jamyl (His Light take her) be continued and expanded by the next incumbant. Considering it's between Tash-Murkon and Kor-Azor... I'm feeling rather optimistic.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#308 - 2016-02-28 22:26:54 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

Lady Aspenstar — I'm calling you out. Perhaps your pupil, Lady Jenneth has merely gone a bit astray and you yourself are guilty only of poor oversight. If so, then please make a statement — your silence permits dangerous, too-liberal ideas to spread around your corporation and the Amarr bloc generally.

PIE Members — I'm calling you out, too. Your alliance has gone hopelessly wayward and liberal, but perhaps some of you retain just enough traces of orthodoxy in your wayward and liberal minds to realize that part of the Amarr bloc has gone seriously astray, here. Help bring SFRIM back into orthodoxy, if only the far left end of it.



Proof of war-dec or you're a faithless liar.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#309 - 2016-02-29 01:45:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
So, what's this? Nauplius is against non-Holders not possessing slaves?

Good gracious, I thought by Imperial law only Holders have rights to slave-holding. I can't for the life of me imagine a Ni-Kunni shopkeeper owning a slave.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#310 - 2016-03-01 00:53:18 UTC
Thus far, the Amarr Bloc seems...reluctant to criticize the wayward and liberal SFRIM corporation.

Can we even agree that Chaduk poses a threat to whomever owns him now, and that plus the filthy Minmatar's interest in him upthread means that we ought to be making some effort to find him and put him someplace where he isn't a danger to the Chosen? A place like a pilot's hanger. Preferably mine. But any competent slaveowner's hanger would be better than where he is now. Only SFRIM has any idea where that might be at this point.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#311 - 2016-03-01 01:24:07 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Thus far, the Amarr Bloc seems...reluctant to criticize the wayward and liberal SFRIM corporation.

Can we even agree that Chaduk poses a threat to whomever owns him now, and that plus the filthy Minmatar's interest in him upthread means that we ought to be making some effort to find him and put him someplace where he isn't a danger to the Chosen? A place like a pilot's hanger. Preferably mine. But any competent slaveowner's hanger would be better than where he is now. Only SFRIM has any idea where that might be at this point.


'Chosen' as in yourself, I take it? He will continue to be a problem to whichever Holder who decides to own him but he will especially be a problem to you, because he's got a chip on your shoulder.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#312 - 2016-03-01 02:06:13 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Put him someplace where he isn't a danger.


If he is a Sebbie, I've got an ice planet in Insmother!

In addition to my own Sebiestor wards, the population includes new outsourcees from both the Heimatar and Molden Heath Department of Prisoner Reformative Services Bureau of Special Cases. The administrators are Deteis, because ice planet. Not the most compassionate sorts, to be sure, but trustworthy and disciplined!
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#313 - 2016-03-01 02:36:54 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Put him someplace where he isn't a danger.


If he is a Sebbie, I've got an ice planet in Insmother!

In addition to my own Sebiestor wards, the population includes new outsourcees from both the Heimatar and Molden Heath Department of Prisoner Reformative Services Bureau of Special Cases. The administrators are Deteis, because ice planet. Not the most compassionate sorts, to be sure, but trustworthy and disciplined!


The slave in question, Chaduk, is Vherokior. Surely you would have found out that info by reading Ms. Jenneth's entry above, near the top of the thread page.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#314 - 2016-03-01 03:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Nauplius wrote:
Thus far, the Amarr Bloc seems...reluctant to criticize the wayward and liberal SFRIM corporation.

Can we even agree that Chaduk poses a threat to whomever owns him now, and that plus the filthy Minmatar's interest in him upthread means that we ought to be making some effort to find him and put him someplace where he isn't a danger to the Chosen? A place like a pilot's hanger. Preferably mine. But any competent slaveowner's hanger would be better than where he is now. Only SFRIM has any idea where that might be at this point.


All of a sudden I'm finding the Empire's lack of a central slave registry much more understandable and comforting than I did when I was trying to find the families of the people we rescued.

If you can use a tool for one thing, you can probably use it for a few more.

Edit:

So ... after thinking about it a little further, maybe I should say this.

I'm really ambivalent about what happens next. Nauplius recovering him is pretty obviously good for no one but Nauplius, but I think he's well out of The Butcher's reach.

Miz, I think if you find him and give him the chance he'll find death in combat, and quickly. I don't think Chaduk Dauhagin is a well person. In his way, I think he's more badly hurt than Miri. If he was stubborn before Nauplius....

I didn't talk about masochism idly. He's stubborn to the point of self-destruction, and terribly naive. If Nauplius is afraid of his rage, I suspect that's because the two of them both see themselves in storybook terms. Tyrant and rebel. Villain and hero.

This isn't a world for heroes, though, even if Chaduk were one. Ego and resentment make lousy armor. Chaduk's so far faced only enemies who, for one reason or another, were reluctant to kill him. Even Nauplius, who still seems to want him back alive.

If he's free, that won't be true at all anymore. The first scrambler rifle he faces will likely boil the blood in his veins and the meat from his bones, and set fire to what's left.

To him, a death like that might not be pointless-- a blaze of glory, a fitting end. Maybe that would be enough for him. Maybe you could even make a symbol out of him, hold him up as some sort of paragon of Matari fighting spirit.

He'd probably die happily for that.

I don't quite wish such a thing on him, though.

Maybe he's not better off where he is. Maybe a slave really is better off dead.

I'm not sure I agree with that, though. ... If it were me, I think I'd want to live. Then again, some of the things he's said-- the extremes he went to.... If I'd been the person he thought I was, if we'd been the people he thought we were, maybe he would have been beaten to death.

Maybe he's been looking for death all along. Has he been trying to make someone kill him?

If he were taken away, barred from service, kept away from the Amarr-- could he live a peaceful life? Would he be happy doing such a thing?

... Oh, well. It's none of my business anymore.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#315 - 2016-03-01 16:37:34 UTC
It's my experience that people like that cannot be fixed by moving their body. It's likely that he's unable to react proportionally - he'll resent completely any type of discipline placed upon him, he'll reject completely any authority placed over him and he will react to the uttermost of his rage and disdain in that sort of case.

You'd have to fix his mind and spirit to change what will, otherwise, be a short path to an ugly death.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#316 - 2016-03-01 19:56:25 UTC
Well, the whole not-Sebiestor thing is a pity. But Soon(tm), I should be moving into a larger, more spacious research facility located somewhere in the Catch Stain region. That brings several advantages, not the least of which is ready access to the remains of Nation zombies. I have percolated the idea with top minds in and out of the Hematology Advancement Program, and we believe that the whole not-Sebiestor thing can be fixed through an aggressive regimen of nano-genetic washing, auto-immune repurposing, and blood transmutations.

We are 17.53% certain that the subject will survive becoming the first lycanthropic Previously Not Sebiestor, an that's just got to be better than getting vaporized by a disgruntled Templar waiting for his pink slip!
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#317 - 2016-03-01 23:47:09 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Even Nauplius, who still seems to want him back alive.


You have discovered an anomaly, Lady Jenneth. This Chaduk seems to have escaped my possession without being broken. Miri wasn't broken either, but since you disguised Miri's real name, I don't know whether she was with me long enough to have been broken. Chaduk, however, was with me long enough to have been broken, and it seems he was not.

If I had this Chaduk back, my staff could experiment on him and re-tune their breaking procedures to prevent unbroken slaves from happening in the future without simply cranking up the torture, Vitoc, chains, TCMCs and so on across the board. Without such evidence available, we shall have a less finely-tuned solution — but we shall not err on the side of too little repression.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#318 - 2016-03-02 01:24:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Nauplius wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Even Nauplius, who still seems to want him back alive.


You have discovered an anomaly, Lady Jenneth. This Chaduk seems to have escaped my possession without being broken. Miri wasn't broken either, but since you disguised Miri's real name, I don't know whether she was with me long enough to have been broken. Chaduk, however, was with me long enough to have been broken, and it seems he was not.

If I had this Chaduk back, my staff could experiment on him and re-tune their breaking procedures to prevent unbroken slaves from happening in the future without simply cranking up the torture, Vitoc, chains, TCMCs and so on across the board. Without such evidence available, we shall have a less finely-tuned solution — but we shall not err on the side of too little repression....

... Um. So ...

This can't actually be too much of an anomally, Mr. Nauplius, if only because there's probably a span of time for pretty much everyone who enters your possession where they haven't been broken yet. That implies that, unless you stock your towers with pre-broken prisoners, when we blow them up there will often be a few that you haven't done your worst to yet.

There's bound to be some sort of law of diminishing returns when it comes to how fast you can break how many people.

(I can't believe I actually just wrote that.)

Edit:

... so, actually, it looks like you took that into account already.

Mr. Nauplius, on further reflection, I'd say instead that Chaduk is pretty broken. Just, maybe not by you. Pieter's comments sound about right to me.

It's not that he's strong, or that your methods aren't cruel enough. It's a pathology.

He's insane.

Maybe you can relate. ... no, probably not. That's more a wish than a hope.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#319 - 2016-03-02 02:16:26 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
It's my experience that people like that cannot be fixed by moving their body. It's likely that he's unable to react proportionally - he'll resent completely any type of discipline placed upon him, he'll reject completely any authority placed over him and he will react to the uttermost of his rage and disdain in that sort of case.

You'd have to fix his mind and spirit to change what will, otherwise, be a short path to an ugly death.



Oh that's easily fixed these days.

Unlike Nauplius, I believe in the humane treatment of Controlled Personnel. It is far more ethical and cost-effective.

We have the technology to repair the broken mind. That and proper spiritual guidance can help heal the soul.

Upon further reflection, the name Chaduk actually sounds familiar. I know I hired some Personnel from one of the rescue missions. I do keep accurate records, I'll see if I still have him on the payroll or if I can find for sure where he is.



"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Tabor Murn
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#320 - 2016-03-02 02:17:09 UTC
Nauplius wrote:


You have discovered an anomaly, Lady Jenneth. This Chaduk seems to have escaped my possession without being broken. Miri wasn't broken either, but since you disguised Miri's real name, I don't know whether she was with me long enough to have been broken. Chaduk, however, was with me long enough to have been broken, and it seems he was not.

If I had this Chaduk back, my staff could experiment on him and re-tune their breaking procedures to prevent unbroken slaves from happening in the future without simply cranking up the torture, Vitoc, chains, TCMCs and so on across the board. Without such evidence available, we shall have a less finely-tuned solution — but we shall not err on the side of too little repression.


So what you're trying to say is that in addition to being a sadistic pervert, you're a failure.