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Breakfast Program for Gallente Zones

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2016-02-26 17:01:26 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Uh Peiter, I think it's more the fact it comes off as trying to train little Provists that's the problem, not the aid.


I find the concept that a child that spends its entire life being saturation bombarded by Federal media could be deconditioned and reconditioned in the space of time it takes to eat a bowl of cereal just the teensiest bit amusing.

Psy-ops doesn't work like this. The net impact of this, unless it is repeated every morning for a decade, will be a bowl of cereal.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2016-02-26 17:07:57 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
However, why would anyone name their product the 'Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs'? Any parent who sees that box will be thinking, 'Diabetes-in-a-box'! Isn't there a more subtle name that can be used?


It's not a real brand, so far as I am aware. Just a common catch-all term to signify the types of products at the extreme end of the sugary lingering death end of the consumer spectrum.

However, as a general rule, subtlety is a fairly rare trait in marketing circles, especially for things that aren't good for one.


How is it that that kind of foodstuff exists at all?

You know what? Nevermind. I can never figure out the Gallente palate. I suppose I should now go find solace in my larder. The flatbread will raise my mood.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#23 - 2016-02-26 18:41:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
I have contributed a supply of Genetically Enhanced Livestock to this program. Children learning to become Provists need a food that makes them strong and intelligent. A food like Genetically Enhanced Livestock.

... um. Mr. Nauplius? You do realize that the Provists, as a slightly more sympathetic incarnation of the Templis Dragonaurs, are anti-foreign influence generally?

That includes yours.

Admittedly, they might be kind of desperate for allies right now, but they're not historically the sorts to feel like they need any, so....


The way he says it makes it obvious that he is making a paid endorsement of the product. It has the repetition of a commercial.

Anyway, it's not relevant because the only nutritious and downright tasty breakfast for these kids is a bowl of Ishukrunch. It's not just part of a well balanced breakfast but kids love Ishukrunch. Ishukrunch has all the vitamins and minerals required by law, all the sugar permitted by law, and all the additives not prohibited by law. Ishukrunch is the number one name in perfectly legal breakfast foodstuffs!

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Morgan Wulver
SAYR Reserve Guard
SAYR Galactic
#24 - 2016-02-26 21:58:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Morgan Wulver
You all personally disgust me. I know I've never come across as the most ethical among us so perhaps I'm in no position to talk, but it goes to show the general climate of the capsuleer community that all of you would jump at the chance to write this program off as a psy-ops campaign aimed to increase insurgency among gods damned toddlers.

The youth of Caldari Prime have known, at most, two ways of life; surviving the invasion of YC110 and surviving the invasion of 115. For a child to even live through these struggles is a feat of amazing strength , and despite what many of you priviliaged pricks might realize much of the planet is either in economic, environmental, or social ruin. The only respite they've recieved on either side is the relatively brief ceasefire that they have enjoyed in the last year, all while still living under martial law so Mordu's Legion can uphold whatever order is left. Crime is rampant, supplies hard to come across outside of relief efforts, and there's plenty of civil unrest on both sides for one ethnicity living inside the district of another.

I'm not gonna white-wash it either folks. I don't have statistics, but I bet its pretty rapey down there too.

And you know what, yes, as a former Dragonaur I recognize that much of the turmoil down there is our fault. But I've had the same upbringing as many of the kids on Prime, growing up under constant assault in Black Rise. I nearly slid down a path that'd end with me either face down in a ditch or patroling the streets like a feral executing anyone I came across. I was filled with hate and confusion, and it was hard to understand as a child why these things happened and what other people around me had died for. But somehow the Templis found me and if nothing else they hammered me out, taught me the meaning of national pride, and molded me into a somewhat functional human being.

While I no longer support the actions of the Templis, I still believe that people such as me that understand the damage they have caused in the Provists have the potential to make ammends here and save other children the way that they saved me. If they achieve that through something as simple as handing out sugar cereal and teaching kids how to tie knots and march, all for the better.

In fact, damn it all. I had a vacation planetside scheduled sometime in the next month, but instead of retreating to Matais what's it going to take for me to help out as some sort of troop counselor. I'm great with kids, we can talk about cartoons and how cool oribtal bombardments are to watch.

Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2016-02-26 23:04:45 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:

Anyway, it's not relevant because the only nutritious and downright tasty breakfast for these kids is a bowl of Ishukrunch. It's not just part of a well balanced breakfast but kids love Ishukrunch. Ishukrunch has all the vitamins and minerals required by law, all the sugar permitted by law, and all the additives not prohibited by law. Ishukrunch is the number one name in perfectly legal breakfast foodstuffs!


Never. Ishukrunch is sugary liberal nonsense packed full of foreign ingredients. I eat Kaalakrunch which is made from the best vat grown ingredients in good Caldari stations everywhere.

Kaalakrunch is good for the economy and okay for you!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#26 - 2016-02-26 23:06:39 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Kaalakrunch is good for the economy and okay for you!


You are adjusting to lets-just-call-it-civilian life well, Pieter!
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2016-02-27 00:37:38 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Kaalakrunch is good for the economy and okay for you!


You are adjusting to lets-just-call-it-civilian life well, Pieter!


I'm trying to get up later and transitioning into my not-a-uniform-at-all really well, Lady Noh!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#28 - 2016-02-27 06:17:59 UTC
Firstly i would like to thank those people who have made donations , pledges, Morgan , Satja , Nauplius, We thank you very much for your donations, its going to a good cause. I believe you understand what it is we are trying to do here.

We have been very busy recently ,with the setting up of the free breakfast for children program and i personally have not had much spare time. When i have little more time i will reassure people that this is just charitable program to feed children.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#29 - 2016-02-28 01:44:07 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.

Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out.


Mr Kinnison , we are not a terrorist organisation as you rightly know, niether Concord or any of the 4 major empires have the FLMPP registered as such. We are a party that campaign for an end to the occupation.

This is not about provist propaganda , its about helping Caldari communities in the Gallente zones.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#30 - 2016-02-28 01:44:55 UTC
Astera Zandraki wrote:
I think you'll find Federal kids well fed, educated and healthy.. so, thanks but no thanks.


This is not about feeding Federation children , this is about feeding Caldari children , who live in a zone , where their community faces persecution on a dialy basis, and are treated as second class citizens.

Hungry child is less attentive performs less well at school , than one that has had a good meal to start the day. We trying to make sure no child will start their day by being hungry. Its important to make sure we give our children the best opportunities we can. As life is much tougher for our communities in these zones.

These programs are about helping our communities to not end up in a cycle of poverty through the persecution they face, by feeding our children and giving them a good start to the day.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#31 - 2016-02-28 01:57:59 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.

Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out.


See, the politics part of this is the part that's meant to trip you up. You're supposed to try and ban this - as if donating food and medical care to poor people is a bad thing because you don't approve of whatever music is playing in the background whilst it's handed out.

But in point of fact, Children will quite happily eat cereal - especially if they're hungry.


No , no , no Pieter , thats not it at all , its about helping our communities in the zones. We dont want anyone to ban it, why would they. If we teach them little Caldari history Pieter what is wrong with that.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#32 - 2016-02-28 02:42:09 UTC
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I do find some humour in the idea of you teaching these children, who already live in the Gallente controlled zones, what conditions in the Gallente zones are like. Would it be more accurate to say you are going to teach them what you want them to believe conditions in the Gallente zones are like?


No , they know what conditions are like for the Caldari living in Gallente zone. They live it everyday.

We want an immediate end to Federation brutality and murder of Caldari people in the zones. We want freedom for all Caldari citizens held in Federation prisons. We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings. We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent Federation society. We want education that teaches us our true history. We want all Caldari citizens when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their Caldari communities. We want bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace. Most of all we want liberation and an end to occupation.

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Now if this program was in place to teach the kids about Caldari culture and traditions I would be all for it


This is exactly what we plan on doing Alleile , as well as giving them a good meal. Now will you be happy to send donation Alleile.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2016-02-28 22:38:36 UTC
Well, I'll have to say that that it's refreshing to see a fairly positive post finally make an appearance.

Please let me know if you need any additional help.

Your area of operation is a bit outside our normal areas of operation, but we're willing to make an exception for a good cause.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2016-02-29 02:17:27 UTC
You have to hide the propaganda in the stuff they enjoy. Like holo cartoons, children's books, teen magazines and the back of cereal containers. Your blunt approach is way too obvious and won't reach the people that don't already believe the information you are trying to pass on. Propaganda is best when nobody knows that it's occurring.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#35 - 2016-02-29 02:20:26 UTC
Thankyou for the generous offer Sinjin, we will keep it mind, at the moment i dont think we will be needing any additional help. If you can donate any food products to the program , that would be greatly appreciated. Jita or Amarr would be perfect for the pick point for any donations. We are willing to travel further to collect any donations.

Most of the funding for the program will be paid out of the profits of HBROS apart from any donations we recieve. We will be using our haulers to move supplies down onto the planet.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#36 - 2016-02-29 02:35:59 UTC
Morgan Wulver wrote:
You can expect a donation of over five hundred thousand pallets of dairy products to your program within the week. No Caldari children will be receiving dry cereal, bone fractures, or the rickets on my watch. If it spoils just make cream cheese or sourdough flapjacks out of it or something.


That would be perfect for the program Morgan , greatly appreciated. Its really good deed your doing , by helping our people . We thankyou comrade.
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