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HowLong to wait before activating MWD after hitting align in Gatecloak
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Noob Rookie
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-02-26 08:14:07 UTC
HI all,
I am currently practising MWD/cloak trick with a Heron (in hi sec to be safe). Right after breaking the gate cloak with "align" , I can almost instantly activate my "prototype cloak I" after hitting MWD, but I can not immediately activate MWD right after hitting "align" (which makes me visible to other players I assume). Is there a deliberate lag for activating MWD in such cases?
i.e: Can I hit align and nanoseconds later MWD and picoseconds later cloak? or it is more like hit Align then wait half a second (?) before MWD becomes activatable?
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#2 - 2016-02-26 09:38:19 UTC
The way I do it is.

Hit Allign.
Hit Cloak.
Hit MWD.
When MWD finishes decloak and warp.

You don't need to be exceptionally quick between allign-cloak-mwd. The half second sounds about right. Also I haven't made a mistake in the order, MWD should be last.

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Cherri Minoa
Serendipity Technologies Inc
#3 - 2016-02-26 12:41:38 UTC
I am pleased to see you are researching and practising it. I always tell people to go somewhere safe and parctice it over and over and over again. Not just this, but other skills like decloaking with an interceptor. You want to practice these things so often that when you have to do it "live" it feels automatic "just like it did in practrice."

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#4 - 2016-02-26 15:38:27 UTC
Starting off track a bit here. Remember that in EvE you CANNOT change the name of your character, if you are not sure you want to be known as "Noob Rookie" for the rest of your time in EvE you might think about starting another character with a more appropriate long term name.

Great answers on your questions to this point and I only want to add a few things to this.
The Blockade runners or the deep space transport ships may be better options for you long term, see link below.
Blockade runners use the covert operations cloak which allows you to warp while cloaked.
The deep space transports offer more tank ability and a native +2 to warp core stabilization but cannot use the covert operations cloak.

Industrial ships
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2016-02-26 16:44:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Noob Rookie wrote:
"prototype cloak I"
Unless something has changed I am unaware of, the MWD warp trick requires a T2 cloak to work properly. If you use a T1 cloak, it may appear you are doing it right but there will be a short window you can be locked before you warp off. I have caught quite a few haulers using T1 cloaks.


Noob Rookie wrote:
after hitting MWD, but I can not immediately activate MWD right after hitting "align" (which makes me visible to other players I assume). Is there a deliberate lag for activating MWD in such cases?
i.e: Can I hit align and nanoseconds later MWD and picoseconds later cloak? or it is more like hit Align then wait half a second (?) before MWD becomes activatable?
The server operates at 1Hz, which means it operates on 1 second intervals. This means your button clicks should also be made in one second intervals.

It's ok to be seen, as long as you have activated the cloak within a tick (one second) of hitting the align button you can't be locked even if they can see you. Keep in mind what you see on the screen is not necessarily in sync with what is actually happening. The cloak animation takes a few ticks, but even if you are seen, the cloak is still in operation.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-02-26 16:46:12 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Noob Rookie wrote:
HI all,
I am currently practising MWD/cloak trick with a Heron (in hi sec to be safe). Right after breaking the gate cloak with "align" , I can almost instantly activate my "prototype cloak I" after hitting MWD, but I can not immediately activate MWD right after hitting "align" (which makes me visible to other players I assume). Is there a deliberate lag for activating MWD in such cases?
i.e: Can I hit align and nanoseconds later MWD and picoseconds later cloak? or it is more like hit Align then wait half a second (?) before MWD becomes activatable?



There's no delay required for the MWD, you're just coincidentally running up against the server "tick". You won't be able to activate anything until you break gatecloak, which isn't going to happen until the server ticks. Depending on latency and timing this could be milliseconds or whole seconds.

As others have said, you want to activate the cloak first. There is plenty of time after activating the cloak to hit the MWD, and MWDing can cause your sig to explode and facilitate instalocks.

And, as Parandoid Lloyd said, you are going to want an improved cloak to really make it work correctly. The speed reduction factor on the prototype is too high.

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Annemariela Antonela
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-02-26 19:01:06 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Starting off track a bit here. Remember that in EvE you CANNOT change the name of your character, if you are not sure you want to be known as "Noob Rookie" for the rest of your time in EvE you might think about starting another character with a more appropriate long term name.

Great answers on your questions to this point and I only want to add a few things to this.
The Blockade runners or the deep space transport ships may be better options for you long term, see link below.
Blockade runners use the covert operations cloak which allows you to warp while cloaked.
The deep space transports offer more tank ability and a native +2 to warp core stabilization but cannot use the covert operations cloak.

Industrial ships


I heard they were gonna let us change our names for the low, low fee of 999 Aurum.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#8 - 2016-02-26 20:37:54 UTC
Who are you kidding? It will be 2001

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Noob Rookie
Doomheim
#9 - 2016-02-26 20:52:53 UTC
Thank you very much for all the replies and detailed, useful information which will always be my best weapon in this game :)
Memphis Baas
#10 - 2016-02-26 20:56:01 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Starting off track a bit here. Remember that in EvE you CANNOT change the name of your character, if you are not sure you want to be known as "Noob Rookie" for the rest of your time in EvE you might think about starting another character with a more appropriate long term name.


Boob Rookie.