Player Features and Ideas Discussion

if you can show us a character who has done it legitimately (ie. the hard way, by having a subscription for ages), then sure
until then
NOPE

Last time I read an article on skills in EvE(about a year ago) they calculated it would take between 24 and 27 YEARS to train all skills in the game to level 5 depending on implants. Surely the new skill extractors could shorten that but what would it cost and how many players would be willing to pay it? Which raises the question of why make this major change to the game for the few, especially when it would put new players at even greater disadvantage then they are now.


So in the end it seems I am destined to even further split the opinion on this one.

NO

Actually, the online number, according to Chribba, is for the account. So if he created that account X days ago, then created an alt on that account X-10 days later, then you'd see numbers like that.

Plus 99.999% of the SP is useless in any given scenario anyway. When that dude is flying a titan, his frigate, corporation, research, manufacturing, etc, skills, are not being utilized. Same goes for anything else he's doing. Even if he skill injected JUST all ships and related systems, he can only max out his ability to use a ship to the same level everyone else can achieve in under a year or two, and most people probably already have mastery level 4 to their preferred ship choice. And protip: many of the skills in "mastery" are useless or contrived anyway, and completely unnecessary in combat.

So what does Ironbank, or anyone else that maxes out their SP, do that you can't? Absolutely nothing. Chances are that any ship you currently fly often, you can fly as well as he can. He can ONLY ever evenly match you, he can't get to any level in a ship that you can't get yourself in a relatively short amount of time.

There's no pay to win here. There's only "pay to be extraordinarily inefficient". Those mining, corp management, titan skills, etc, are almost guaranteed losses because he'll likely never use them. Manufacturing slots? How often do you think they'll log this guy in for manufacturing? Well, if he's going to be useful for anything, that might be a good start. But invention? Research? Trading at the hubs? So many people already maxed out their relevant skills there that he can only compete with them, he can't surpass them there either.

So this is much ado about nothing. Really.

Not following that cycle is one of the reasons a lot of us still play EVE after 10 years but have bought-played-quit a dozen other MMOs in that same 10 years.

Because that's dumb as hell and goes against everything Eve stands for, that's why.

Segregating space based on SP really would be a sign of end times.

Oh, and also: no skills over 5. Come on.

Look, here's a whole thread of no votes from three years ago. Nothing has changed since then.

Edit: and here's reddit on the many ways this would break the game. And here's a thread from eight years ago on the same topic. And another.

From that last one, a quote to live by:

What part of having the money to buy 300 plexes in either isk or cash not being affected by an increase in the ceiling do guys like you not understand?

Why do you even care?

Negative Infinity

Skill trading §ucks CCP. Ω of the game. What were they thinking?? ¿Que?

I love EVE, CCP is a great company, but WTH were they thinking introducing this?? And no, No, NO, NOOO MORE talk of screwing with the training/trading system please. Unless they want to do away with this abomidation.

Hail Hydra.