EVE General Discussion

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/evelopedia-shutdown-2016-02-29-09-00/

Guess that it makes sense.

First they removed the abbility to listen to the game's music with ingame tools.

Then they removed the abbility to get game help from inside the game.

Now they're removing the only company-developed information resource on the game functions and lore.


EVE Online: with no user manual! No ingame support! And now without developer documentation on any damn thing in the game!


Oh yes, the lore stuff will be relocated somewhere, sometime, somehow, yadda yadda yadda. Not a high priority, is it?

And they've been very careful to consider it before handling all relevant documentation and information work to players, too. It's not as if a software developer had any responsibility in documenting the software it releases to customers, does it?

Well they do mention the alternatives:


It is not like you will be left with nothing. They said in the second last o7 show that they will expand on the Flight academy. I personally never used EVElopedia as I did not like the format and found it often outdated, for example finding the hull boni information. I instead used EVE uni, which is more up to date.

For an example compare :
EVElopedia
UniWikia

I know which one I find more informative. So I don't see the problem tbh?

I'm totally against EVElopedia shut down.

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty outdated, but lack of users support is not a fault of the project or CCP team.

For two years i used EVElopedia from in-game Help menu when a was looking for quick info on some sites, object and lore stuff. Replacing it with 3rd-party wikias will not help newcommers to make their first steps in New Eden.

Really bad idea. If someone would be interested in making some sort of public petition - i'll totally support it.

These actually are signs of a sinking ship.

I'm constantly shocked at the fact that CCP seem perfectly happy to let players do their work for them. For example people have been using out of game fitting tools all along, it doesn't make the game look finished when you need to use 3rd party programs. This closing of evelopedia doesn't surprise me anymore, if the Devs can get a similar end product out of us players without doing any work then they'll take the chance. It's just a good thing we have had such a dedicated community because I can't imagine CoD players writing countless websites on lore and mechanics, and CCP don't seem to want to either.

I know this is supposed to be a sandbox where we make the content but surely we're not supposed to make everything else too?

That practice harks back to the early days of home computing and associated gaming when games were left to the player to figure out, any instructions that accompanied them were very basic; anything more normally meant a primitive form of DRM like LensLok was being used.

CCP aren't alone in doing it, user created help resources are nearly always better than the official ones.

3 devs of how many?

And do you know how many devs have joined CCP over the last year? Of course not, because no-one pays attention to that. They just want to whine and whine about people leaving.


In other news:

https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/evelopedia/index.php/Main_Page

Im not saying CCP is dying. They just landed a big investment, what im saying is that they are cutting EVE Online resources and squeezing money from it to try make something else. It wouldn't surprise me that all that new T3 hardware is to push Valkyrie and very little gets used for EVE. Think about it... CCP the company is a one hit wonder.... after a while they just dont want to play the same tune anymore... But dont get me wrong I love this game and have actually spent a good chunk of my entertainment money on it i dont want to see it dwindle away. The amount of lore in there is significant and all that being swept away is disturbing... I think they dont give a f*k anymore about EVE and are praying for Valkyrie to be a hit.

They aren't cutting a resource, they're recognizing that their own Eve wiki is incredibly inferior to the player run ones and instead putting the effort to maintain it towards developing new resources such as Flight Academy.

The lore is getting it's own special dedicated website. It's not as if its just evaporating into nothingness.

The new server is for Eve. Valkyrie has it's own dedicated hardware that should already be in place for the launch of the Rift in March. The games work in significantly different ways so the hardware likely can't cross the two anyway.

Of course they want the game to be a hit. I'd like to see it be a hit as a fan.

You're completely disregarding the amount of work that's been done to Eve over the past year and completely ignoring the major work that is planned for release in the future just so you can say they don't care anymore. That's your problem to deal with.

CCP has been a one hit wonder for over a decade and, amazingly, have survived. They even set a company record for profit last year despite the major investment into developing the VR assets (yes, they got a sizable injection of cash to help with that, but still).

I think that about covers it.

Agreed. If they don't have the funds to even maintain a single wiki, things must be really bad at CCP.