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Question from a bloody beginner

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Joe McDonald
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-02-20 21:08:14 UTC
Dear Aliens,

I just recently started playing the trial and I am very unsure about the game yet. On one hand I am really interested in how things are going and on the other hand, I am even lost in the beginning with my tutorials (I logged off, came back and didn't had a clue what to do).

Also I still do not understand what all these things are in-game and what I am actually able to do? I've seen the trailers of the kickstarter packs on the mainpage and what I saw in the colonist trailer was simply astonishing. This is something I'd really love to do, but how? Where to learn it, what do I have to do? Is it actually required to buy those packs in order to perform those actions?

So simply, I feel already lost, while I didn't even start playing the game yet, but especially because I feel so lost, I am also very interested in it. Should I go for it? If so, how & where do I learn the best and the other questions been asked above (starterpacks).

Regards
A human, not EVE Alien yet.


P.S. Is it possible to buy a TARDIS?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2016-02-20 21:24:19 UTC
Don't worry, I remember my head spinning when I started playing too.

No you do not need one of the starter pacs to get going in an activity, all of the things and skills required can be purchased off the ingame market for isk (the ingame currency)

I assume the "opportunities" is what is confusing you , there are a bunch new tutorial videos you can find in the F12 menu in game, I recommend you go watch them.
Joe McDonald
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-02-20 21:31:06 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Don't worry, I remember my head spinning when I started playing too.

No you do not need one of the starter pacs to get going in an activity, all of the things and skills required can be purchased off the ingame market for isk (the ingame currency)

I assume the "opportunities" is what is confusing you , there are a bunch new tutorial videos you can find in the F12 menu in game, I recommend you go watch them.


Thanks. I'll go for it.
gfldex
#4 - 2016-02-20 21:32:42 UTC
Joe McDonald wrote:
I feel already lost


If you require leadership it may be sensible to seek leadership.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Memphis Baas
#5 - 2016-02-20 21:54:02 UTC
The Colonist trailer shows a number of ships, and a little bit of the Planetary Industry gameplay.

You should realize that PI is only a small part of the game; it can provide a bit of passive income for you. The trailer talks about building components, but PI has many levels of production, with the components produced at each level serving as raw materials for the next level. And there is a limit of 6 planets per character... basically you can't easily build "everything" from scratch, it'll take too many characters. People who are interested in manufacturing (planetary or otherwise) typically make components for sale, or buy the final components and assemble them into ships etc.

EVE is complex; players build everything, from ammo to ship modules to ships, and players use everything for PVE or PVP fights, to either make money or conquer territory and build a home out there, or just for glory and killboard bragging rights.

The core principles are simple:

- You buy skill books from the market and you train the skills to unlock ships, unlock weapons and modules, and make your ships perform better (skills give performance bonuses). Skills can also unlock access to various in-station facilities, for manufacture, for research, refinery, etc.

- Besides the in-station facilities, the ships themselves are tools, and each one has bonuses for a certain role. Some are for DPS, others are for tank, others are for scouting while cloaked (invisible), electronic jamming, remote repairs (healing), mining, transporting loot and materials, etc. So if you want to do something, you either access the correct facility in-station, or you jump in a ship that provides that role, and go out there and use the ship for that role.

- The game is a strategy PVP game, played from an individual's point of view. We are the units, and the groups that we form (corporations and alliances of corporations) typically fight each other in grand wars and can conquer the map, set down stations / build homes, and defend them. The game focuses on PVP; there are some PVE elements such as manufacturing, missions given by agents, exploration, etc., but they're not as developed as in other MMO games. This game shines at PVP, however.

- The game interface is based on waypoints and destinations. You pick a target or a destination, either from the list (Overview) or by right-clicking in space, and you warp to it, approach, orbit, lock target, activate weapons, activate jamming, etc. You can double-click in space to move freely, but this game isn't really a joystick game; the ships are big (frigates, cruisers, battleships), so you rely on turrets and missiles and drones to always hit, and you don't really aim manually.

So, to get started, you should read as many guides as you can find (and there are plenty out there), and ask questions here. That's what this forum is for.

Here is an overview of what activities you can do in-game, and here's a guide on how to start and do some tutorial missions for some starter cash.

Feel free to ask any questions you have in this thread.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-02-20 22:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Joe McDonald wrote:
Dear Aliens,

I just recently started playing the trial and I am very unsure about the game yet. On one hand I am really interested in how things are going and on the other hand, I am even lost in the beginning with my tutorials (I logged off, came back and didn't had a clue what to do).

Also I still do not understand what all these things are in-game and what I am actually able to do? I've seen the trailers of the kickstarter packs on the mainpage and what I saw in the colonist trailer was simply astonishing. This is something I'd really love to do, but how? Where to learn it, what do I have to do? Is it actually required to buy those packs in order to perform those actions?

So simply, I feel already lost, while I didn't even start playing the game yet, but especially because I feel so lost, I am also very interested in it. Should I go for it? If so, how & where do I learn the best and the other questions been asked above (starterpacks).

Regards
A human, not EVE Alien yet.


P.S. Is it possible to buy a TARDIS?


First of all, welcome to EVE.

Now, what I can read in your post shows me that you jumped head first into this pool. Only difference with other games, they start you in the kiddy pool and you gradually advance into deeper water. In EVE, you are dumped in the ocean, invested with sharks with freakin' laserbeams on their head and with about 2 ton of weight around your waist, and your hands handcuffed behind your back.


EVE is a sandbox, in it's purest form, think in size of the Sahara. What this means that you CAN do what ever you want to do in EVE. There are very limited constrains to what you can do: Game rule, time, imagination and willpower.

So, that's why the tutorial is kind of **** (well, it is good as it hardly shows you how to work, but most people expect a little bit of help), then again, it can't show you what is possible to do in EVE, cause everything is possible.

You can become anything like:
* A miner
* A huge manufacturer of EVE goods
* A wallstreet Trader
* A trucker hauling stuff for other people
* A pirate
* A mercenary
* A PvP player (as in fleet fights)
* A mob boss
* A scammer
* ....

This is of course just a short list.


So the main question is: What do YOU want to do? Give us some ideas on what you like (as said, hit F12 and do the Career Agents for a little bit of guidance and tutorial stuff), it doesn't even have to be in EVE, it can be in other games too. This way we can learn a bit about you and give you tips on where to go and what to try out.


Another fun thing about EVE, it doesn't have any classes as other games. You can do anything you want, the ship you fly at the moment defines your class. Pick anohter ship and you suddenly have a different role to fulfill.

You can train skills you bought from the market. The skills you train define what ships/modules (and thus activities) you can do. The more you train, the "better" you become.

HOWEVER, EVE is also more about player skills over character skill. Sure you can give a new player a character who has all skills at 5, but he wouldn't know how to use the skills/ships/etc. where as a 10 year veteran in EVE can be deathly with a new player because of his 10 year worth of experience in game mechanics. So play, try stuff out, learn while you go (I've been in EVE for 5.5 years and still learn new stuff quite often).

As I'm lazy, might want to read my post here about EVE's golden rules/guidelines.

As said, you are linking to the Planetary Interaction (PI) video/starter pack. Keep in mind that PI is just a tiny tiny tiny bit of EVE, it is mainly a passive thing in EVE. You set up a planetary production chain and it runs without much/any interaction. Every once in a while you have to restart some stuff and collect good. It isn't a "full time" activity in EVE to be honest, sorry if I busted a bubble but better to know in advance IMO.

Oh and in EVE, when encountering anybody:

Don't blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink. Good Luck - The Tenth Doctor

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2016-02-20 22:28:32 UTC
Welcome OP.

If you want to know what possible options there are from real people, read their stories here:
"How did you Veterans start?"
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-02-21 02:55:22 UTC
Last time I checked, the "Content Packs" were quite good value, though. As long as you are still on trial (read: have not upgraded your account yet - that's the important bit. If you have upgraded already, don't bother) you can extend that trial by 20 days. That alone is a good catch for 5 bucks. On top of that you will get 750AUR (which is 3,50 bucks or so). The rest you get doesn't matter. Nothing you can't get within the first one or two days of playing Eve anyway.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-02-21 03:19:05 UTC
In this game you pretty much need to have friends who have been playing the game for years to help get you up to speed.

Don't worry about feeling lost and don't try and play this game solo it is an MMO after all. Make friends in the game. Sometime joining a new player friendly corp can help.

There are also public chat channels that you can join like help chat reloaded and some of the regulars in here have chat channels linked in their signature.

If you ever want to get into a chat with someone and just ask questions or be walked through stuff send me an in game mail and I'll log on to this character and chat with you or set up a time to do so.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-02-21 09:11:32 UTC
Two simple things:

1. Forget 'bout Opportunities System - it's just some achievements which do almost nothing to teach ya.

2. Hit F12, find "Career Agents", set a destination to their station and make all of the missions they will give ya. That's true tutorial.

After that you may find Sister Alitura agent and get through the first Epic Arc (aka Noob Arc).

You'll learn 'bout main EvE activities and get few starter ships. After that you may find what you wanna do in New Eden and learn how to do it.

And stay away from corporations seekin' for newbie meat. For now.
Hibbe
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-22 14:48:22 UTC
Joe McDonald wrote:
Dear Aliens,

I just recently started playing the trial and I am very unsure about the game yet. On one hand I am really interested in how things are going and on the other hand, I am even lost in the beginning with my tutorials (I logged off, came back and didn't had a clue what to do).

Also I still do not understand what all these things are in-game and what I am actually able to do? I've seen the trailers of the kickstarter packs on the mainpage and what I saw in the colonist trailer was simply astonishing. This is something I'd really love to do, but how? Where to learn it, what do I have to do? Is it actually required to buy those packs in order to perform those actions?

So simply, I feel already lost, while I didn't even start playing the game yet, but especially because I feel so lost, I am also very interested in it. Should I go for it? If so, how & where do I learn the best and the other questions been asked above (starterpacks).

Regards
A human, not EVE Alien yet.


P.S. Is it possible to buy a TARDIS?


1. subscribe
2. youtube is great
3. so is google
4. eve is a sandbox. do what you want.
5. read it again or watch video again.. you missed something
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-02-22 19:00:40 UTC
Or he recycled the character for a new one or he gave up...

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2016-02-22 19:46:19 UTC
My money's on exploded head.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-02-22 20:12:37 UTC
Oh, OP went to Doomheim Sad ...so he probably quit...Sad
I tried EvE first 3 years before I stuck with it. I really wish I had stuck with it then. I thought EvE was cool, but I was very overwhelmed by it. Missed out on 3 years of potential fun. Hope OP comes back.










J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-02-22 21:10:56 UTC
Well, typically people don't biomass if they quit the game (there is no need to biomass if you are not going to play the game anymore anyway).

So, don't know what to think about it.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2016-02-23 01:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Memphis Baas wrote:
You should realize that PI is only a small part of the game ...

I logged-in last evening, and after noticing that someone had purchased nearly all the robotics in The Forge region, I actually did some PI.

It has been a long time. It took me a bit of clicking to figure-out things again Oops I'm a >7 year veteran.

One thing I really recommend for new players is to NOT be scared of trying stuff, and I mean that on the UI level too: don't be afraid to left-click, right-click, click-and-hold, explore menus, etc. Nearly everything in EVE has a right-click context menu.

I'm not currently producing robotics, but rather a bunch of other stuff I remembered I needed *laugh*

My old PI Spew.
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-02-25 22:43:08 UTC
When I started playing there were no instructions at all. Like none. Nada.

Basically there was a rumor about this game. You could buy a game card at Egghead Software.

You then logged on and began pushing buttons randomly to see what would happen.

That is still a valid play style.
Memphis Baas
#18 - 2016-02-25 22:47:14 UTC
Droidster wrote:
When I started playing there were no instructions at all. Like none. Nada.

Really.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-02-26 00:56:11 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
My money's on exploded head.

I'm sure he needed the character slot for his next Tiffany.

Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli

Titan's Lament

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2016-02-26 02:00:27 UTC
Droidster wrote:
You then logged on and began pushing buttons randomly to see what would happen.

That is still a valid play style.

https://imgur.com/xVyoS
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