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a few questions

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Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-11 16:21:18 UTC
I have a few questions to ask every one or well most players that read the forums

1 - should you be attackable if you are afk in the game in space (afk mining, haul ect ect..)

2 - why do you think that

3 - should you be rewarded for being afk (apart from skill training)

4 - why do you think that

my answers

1 - yes

2 - you should never be 100% safe in space if you are afk and in space there should always be risk even if your in a pos you could be bumped out.

3 - no

4 - play the games to get the rewards if it was up to me autopilot would be removed mining laers would have no auto repeat drone would be like fighter you would have to tell them to attack.

in closing from my point of view you should not be safe in space if afk and you shouldn't be rewarded for it what do you guys think.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-01-11 16:34:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
1 - Yes.
2 - Everyone is at all times, so I don't see why AFK people shouldn't be.
3 - If you mean should you still get something, then yes. If you mean get more or the same as an active player doing the same thing, then no.
4 - In general terms people who are actively playing the game should get more out of it then people who are AFK.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#3 - 2012-01-11 16:43:50 UTC
Not sure if serious? What?

Who isn't attackable in space anyway?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#4 - 2012-01-11 17:07:36 UTC
1. Yes
2. You agreed to it (Undock = "Turn on the PvP flag" in other games)
3. Depends on what you mean by "rewarded" ...
4. AFK should still be "viable" (e.g. autopilot whilst I cook dinner), but there are drawbacks to being AFK (slowboat to the gate, missed mining cycles, etc).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#5 - 2012-01-11 17:08:52 UTC

/Grabs popcorn and sunglasses.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#6 - 2012-01-11 17:48:30 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:

/Grabs popcorn and sunglasses.


But you already have sunglasses Ugh

also:

1. Hell yes

2. Its how EVE works

3. Not nearly as much as an active player

4. Effort = reward

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#7 - 2012-01-11 18:16:07 UTC
this thread angers and confuses me

are you asking if people like the current game mechanics as they apply to both ATK and AFK players?
where are we going with this?
Zleon Leigh
#8 - 2012-01-11 18:18:17 UTC
1/10

Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day

PvP's latest  incentive program ** Unified Inventory **  'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it

Naga Elohim
Aeras Krekan Syndicate
#9 - 2012-01-11 18:19:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Naga Elohim
Im sorry have you even played Eve?

You are NEVER 100% safe anywhere in Eve. Ever heard of suicide ganking?

Are AFK miners and mission runners making u mad bro? SUICIDE GANK THEM! Take matters into your own hands. CCP cannot make everything easy for you. That's why this is called a sandbox. If they still **** you off WAR dec them. it seems to me that you are lazy and want free targets instead of working for the kill

You asked for the following...

1 - should you be attackable if you are afk in the game in space (afk mining, haul ect ect..) you already are attack-able at any point in the game. Attention

2 - why do you think that / Because you can suicide gank anything...even a battleship.

3 - should you be rewarded for being afk (apart from skill training) / AFK miners and mission runners are not always AFK. You have to change asteroids when they have been depleted and you have to retract drones as NPC's switch targets now. What reward is there for auto piloting? Arriving at the destination????

4 - why do you think that / see above.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-01-11 18:22:06 UTC
Posting in a stealth AFK Cloaker whine thread!

you will have to excuse the pun as it is not mine
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#11 - 2012-01-11 21:04:47 UTC
Sakurako Kimino wrote:
I have a few questions to ask every one or well most players that read the forums

1 - should you be attackable if you are afk in the game in space (afk mining, haul ect ect..)

2 - why do you think that

3 - should you be rewarded for being afk (apart from skill training)

4 - why do you think that


1. Yes. The only safe place to be when AFK is in a station.
2. If you are interacting with the game while in space you are part of the game world, therefore a potential target.
3/4. Since there is risk to being AFK, yes. If there was no risk to being AFK then there should be no reward.

While there are some AFK things that you can do and gain reward from (tanking drone boat missions, mining, hauling) the risk is still always potentially there that someone could interfere with you (game world interaction). Note this is so long as the actions being taken while AFK are internal to the game and not externally driven (bots).

AFK cloaking, while annoying to some, does not gain the pilot anything other than skill point training time and runs the possible risk of a decloak (either by flying too close to an object or a game hiccup). I have yet to see a legitimate report of a player being directly harmed by a cloaked AFK player.

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"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#12 - 2012-01-11 21:20:44 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

/Grabs popcorn and sunglasses.


But you already have sunglasses Ugh


I needed to get the really dark ones. Blink

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Janus Nightmare
Exploding Kitties
#13 - 2012-01-12 02:34:11 UTC
1) As others have said, if you undock, you're attackable. Kind of a dumb question.

2) See 1

3) May as well

4) Let me give an example. As I type this, I'm essentially AFK mining. My focus is far more on the forums than on the game. I'm not totally AFK of course but pretty close. Now, is there a reward for me AFK mining? Absolutely there is, but I wouldn't call it a great one. I might make 100 million ISK today mining, whereas if I were doing something more proactive I could easily double/triple that amount. But the fact is I'm sitting in a belt, not really watching my ship except to check if my hold is full or if lasers have deactivated. As a result, I'm very susceptible to being ganked. It's happened before and will likely happen again.

Your OP seems to insinuate that because I'm AFK I don't deserve that measly hundred mil, yet should be open to consequence free (for you) attack. But I'm risking over 600 million ISK in ships, not counting fittings, by AFK mining, so should there be no reward for that risk? Sounds to me like you just want to blow up hulks and not have any consequences for it.
Durie
WORLDSTAR HIPHOP
Brotherhood of Spacers
#14 - 2012-01-12 02:59:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Durie
How can you shoot afk miners and haulers?

Easy, you just don't fit for tracking as much.
Cyzlaki
SEAGULL ENJOYMENT AUTHORITY
S0ns Of Anarchy
#15 - 2012-01-12 03:11:05 UTC
WAIT WHAT
Vyl Vit
#16 - 2012-01-12 03:12:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
1. Hell yes.

2. I don't think it. When I think buildings tumble.

3. Ridiculous question.

4. Because it's a ridiculous question.

My single question to you is: What brought this on, were you bored?

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#17 - 2012-01-12 04:30:11 UTC
Durie wrote:
How can you shoot afk miners and haulers?

Easy, you just don't fit for tracking as much.


Anyone that warps away is a miner.

Anyone that doesn't warp away is an AFK miner!
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-01-12 06:31:16 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
were you bored?


yes my alt is sitting cloaked in a system and i can't kill any of my targets their afk and in a pos that has a moon harvester on it

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