EVE New Citizens Q&A

yeah iv seen people pitching fits over it and biomassing
but the only real net negative ive noticed is that character age is now meaningless as a gauge of your opponent.
that aside nothing has changed aside from some people no longer being around over principal.

It's actually a legitimate question coming from a newbie. There have been many MMOs that came out and then died. Players that spent months or years developing a community find themselves cast adrift and nothing to show for that time invested.

It is actually always the main selling point I make about EvE. Unlike all these other games, Eve will be here 10 years from now, so it's ok to invest yourself in the game.

As long as CCP stays privately owned we can rely on EvE being CCP's baby. Now if CCP went publicly owned, then shareholders will appoint a new CEO with the mandate to whatever they have to to get more subscribers like "WoW."

Pff, kids these days

If you are bored, it is your own fault. Not the game's fault cause it is a sandbox

How about:

The Committee for Unsuccesful at Everything Trustfund and Assets Aquisition

When I started to play the game there where 10k _accounts_ online at prime time. The game was working just fine. Now it's 30k.

Some years ago CCP started to actively go after botters. Their server side behaviour detection seams to work well. That killed plenty of accounts ofc. Also there is a proper economic crisis in most of Europe with (real) youth unemployment crossing 50% in most countries. Mix that with Plex prices going from 350M a pop to 1.2B and you will see plenty of alts vanish. We, the players, simply can't tell how many players are actually playing the game unless CCP tells us the account numbers again and provides a breakdown of accounts/player over the years. The only indication of activity would be PvP losses, that are published at Fanfest these days. We used to see them quarterly, you will have to wait until April to see the change relative to last year (given they publish them).

All those words mean, that you can't tell the state of EVE because alts are so useful and common. The best indication is flying around in space and looking for targets. And there CCP really *beep*ed up. When I went into PvP (15 days into the game) there was always somebody to fight. If you camped a pipe the enemy had to react. Nowadays you have to pipe bomb a jump bridge or bet on incompetent JF pilots and you still wont get a reaction from your enemy. You have to shoot their moon goo spring to force their hand. Lowsec is a different matter. FW really did good to the game. If you are into shooting frigates that is.

The area of the game that should see the most action is the most stagnant because moon goo provides the incentive and jump drives supported by timer based warfare the means for afk empires to exist. CCP has tried to address jump drives and jump bridges with slight nerfs, with no results. If they finally grow the balls to touch the afk empires where it hurts, 0.0 might turn back into what it used to be. A place where you shoot lots of players and very few structures. It would also mean that pilots that are active all the time become of value to territory holding entities (or better their leadership) what may result in both the number of accounts and actual activity in space to go up. Orbiting a POS for 5 hours waiting for a timer to tick down does not count as activity and had (in my eyes at least) the effect to drive plenty of pilots out of 0.0 or even the game.

All that can be fixed and if I understood the proposed citadel mining feature correctly, it will fix moon goo and therefore drive afk alliances out of 0.0 . EVE got the potential for another 10 years of loyal customers for CCP games. Besides, where would you go? Another World of Tanks with spaceships?

Hey Tiff. EVE isn't dying. Don't worry your little head(s) about it.

Nonsense. If Ralf, Cara, Sol, Shah, J'Poll, or any other of the regulars here gave me some "SURPRISE PVP!" I'd totally laugh and convo them. Although if the surprise happened when I'm moving 20% of my net worth across the cluster, I might also be a bit put out.

The following is strictly my view on Incarna but just to give you some perspective I was very active at that time but lived in high sec mostly.

At that time CCP was actively producing 3 games and only one of them ( Eve ) had any money coming in. Dust 514 and World of Darkness were the other two and both were still in early development.

CCP decided that they were going to do the whole walking in stations thing. It was fairly well known by those that stay current on the detail that there was a lot of behind the scenes work that went into WiS including developing a brand new lighting engine. So it was no surprise that it was only one room as they had to get the mechanics of making it work out of the way first before they could develop engaging gameplay around it.

In my opinion where they went wrong was they promised the players that WiS would not be mandatory. Most of us internet spaceship pilots wanted nothing to do with it but were ok with it as long as we could opt out but ideally we wanted an opt in situation. Upon release day you were forced into your captain's quarters and ship spinning was gone. A lot of people were pissed about being lied to on that and the lack of any ability to avoid it. As you can see the rage got so bad they had to go back and give us our hangars back.

The whole incident lead to CCP having to recommit to it's core playerbase and I think in general was good for the game.

I personally just do not like micro transactions and have always only played subscription games to avoid them. In 2010 CCP was one of the last games to fall down that path. I would much rather pay for my game by the month and not have people trying to sell me virtual goods.

There are a lot more details here that I am skipping but that is the quick synopsis.

I recommend watching A Tale of Internet Spaceships

EDIT: Incarna starts at 23:35