Ships & Modules

Last month I put up an old Thorax I had on contracts. The Thorax was fitted for missions and had a complement of Tech II modules. I had used it a lot back in 2006. At that time it was not a newbie ship at all. I had been playing for almost 2 years at the time I was flying it. It did not sell.

After playing some more recently I can see why that is. I have a friend who has just started playing and he is only 6 weeks old or so and he can already fly battlecruisers and is using a Drake. Why would he even bother with a Thorax?

Are Tech I cruisers completely obsolete now?

It didn't sell because you kept calling it 'Thor' in this thread

I dunno about PVE but I see lots of cheap t1 cruisers in PVP fleets.

the blackbird would like a word with you about that,
but you cant say anything, you have to sit there and listen.

augs will crush your dreams and hopes.

of corse that prophesy is bait.

Really? When/how were they nerfed?

They are quite powerful especially in small gangs.

They are pretty obsolete in pve.

one of our alliance mates has an accursed moa , we cant get an engagement whenever he brings it out

Was an observation I made on the rep power of my toothbru- Osprey, sorry. I made a fit that you could fly solo like a scimitar just in affordable and the rep power even medium remote reps was good enough to keep battleships alive.

Now with the nerfed remote reps you cannot and they explode the second you look at them funny.

lol

T1 cruisers (T1 anything really) aren't obsolete so much as lacking a role to fill, especially now given the fact that you can skip right by the T1 and skill inject your way to T2. Why fly a Vexor when you can skill inject into an Ishtar? Other than room restrictions, there just isn't any point in flying the T1. There is nothing wrong with the T1 ships, there just happens to be a far better version available.

A second factor is the wealth of players these days. When I started playing, a faction battleship even in a mission hub was a rare unicorn. Today every month old newb is flying a billion isk bling barge. Undock a Rattlesnake and you'll bump three others off the station.

The only two factors that made the T1 ships viable.....cost and a skill (time) investment to get to T2.....have been removed from the game. The increased cost of T2 ships is well within the means of even casual PvE'ers after CCP has buffed high sec so much. And players used to have to weigh the investment of time into a T2 version of a ship versus everything else they need to get in the queue, but can now just slap an injector in and have V in a racial ship skill instantly.

It's not that T1 cruisers are obsolete, it's that being a newbie is obsolete. There is no more excuse for needing to fly anything but a T2/T3 whatever.