Intergalactic Summit

I would not concern myself with crickets such as Kalo and Dietra, mother Amalath. They are loud, but inconsequential. I am also sure the Blooder has a mental deficiency that prevents her from using proper grammar and spelling.

Empress Jamyl I still stands in the hallowed halls of the Amarr soul. She guides our people now and forevermore as an exemplar to our faith and Empire.

Let's review shall we....?

I started off in this thread telling someone who seemed to be trying to throw mud at your empress (who mind you is my enemy, but I did have some respect for, since you CAN hate and respect someone at the same time) by kindly telling them to shut up in much different words, then my last post:

How DARE I say your empress was brave!

You're still kinda annoying about it.

Lord Consort Newelle, in this case, I feel Ms. Vess acted with manners and dignity. Let's not attack her for her words here, hmm?

Respectfully, if I didn't feel many of you wanted my people dead or enslaved still for wanting to develop as we were before our peoples first encounter, I would not be fighting. Plenty of you I'd ignore if you were on my overview since they seem to want to leave us alone. If the drifters came for you I actually would come to fight them. Last time I didn't because people seem to want to ignore the bigger threat for us all and I won't put my crew in that situation where they would die defending a people who don't keep a tighter leash on those who go against even your late empress' wishes. Now I don't believe everything she did had the best of intentions for my people and honestly would prefer to not go down that path here. In the end it was a kind gesture towards peace, I know its not a popular idea on my side of the cluster but it is something I can't say I disagree with. I can say when it comes to the drifters I would back her to a rather large extent.

Understandable, but at the same time a professional soldier shouldn't see everyone as a target, especially when those related to the other side don't want a fight with you. Slaughtering their pacifists only makes you worse than them.

If they don't want to fight, they can put their weapons down and desert.
If they can't desert, because they are forced to fight, they could kill themselves.
Otherwise, they are same soldiers at all. A pacifist with a weapon in hand is not a pacifist anymore.

If they don't hold the gun, but show their hostility otherwise by word or action, they are to be considered hostile units, and thus, not pacifists as well.

As for the real pacifists, I don't care about them. Shooting them is a waste of my time and effort, that I could put to destroy something that represents real threat to the State.

And by relation, to those, whom you would shoot at, you shall not give niceties. They are to be killed.

I agree. There is good reason to doubt that Jamyl is in Paradise. She committed the horrific, vile sin of freeing slaves, millions and millions of them. Her trial at the Judgement will be long and hard, and I think that a holy and righteous God will find that she has forfeited her birthright as Chosen elect for the grievous sin of manumission.

It is therefore most suspect to refer to Jamyl as a saint, for she most likely burns. How just is our God. Amen. Amarr Victor.

Shut. Up.

As a servant of Holy Amarr, my feelings on Jamyl Sarum I are very clear.

She was our Empress

She was willing to carry out actions antithetical to our Faith, such as her freeing of slaves. Whatever your moral stance on that issue, it is against our tenets.

Her right to rule was questionable after her return following her apparent suicide. The doctrine of Sacred Flesh was violated, whether by her use of cloning technology or refusal to commit suicide appropriately.

Her willingness to corrupt Amarrian flesh with the implants from Anoikis was reprehensible.


I do not consider her death to be anything but providential. Amarr needed a revival to continue the Reclaiming, and God, in His wisdom, saw Jamyl as a block to that end. He has taken her where He willed, I pray, to Paradise. Because, as much as I may despise what she stood for, she was proof to all of the will and resolve of the Holy Empire. I respect her immensely for that, and do mourn the passing of one of our most resolute. In that, Alizebeth and I feel the same, I'm sure. We may differ on the direction in which we think the Holy Empire should proceed, but we both hope for the future.

With that, let us mourn, and pray, and move forward the Faith.