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goons and the not so hidden crucible survey
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#61 - 2012-01-11 16:55:22 UTC
kenxi wrote:
Massive amount of goon alts detected.


If it takes them this long to form a fleet in game, I really need to visit Deklein more.
Ispai Ponue
Chaos Delivery Systems
#62 - 2012-01-11 16:58:07 UTC
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
It takes one brave newbcorp forum alt to come in to the lion's den of Eve General Discussion and start a thread bashing Goons.


Hey guys!!!
Look its another goon PET


Says the member of AAA Citizens :P
lady ping pong
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-01-11 17:00:59 UTC
Ispai Ponue wrote:
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
It takes one brave newbcorp forum alt to come in to the lion's den of Eve General Discussion and start a thread bashing Goons.


Hey guys!!!
Look its another goon PET


Says the member of AAA Citizens :P

now AAAC has a voice let them use it.
Ispai Ponue
Chaos Delivery Systems
#64 - 2012-01-11 17:02:07 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Martyr Theos wrote:
Get ready to be banned by CCP for your "Negative" comments. Your point is valid, but don't expect any acknowledgement of this by the management. The Asylum is firmly in the hands of the Patients and RMT Executives.


But what point is he making? What, exactly, have "goons" done wrong in this instance?

Mittens encouraged his alliance to participate in a survey, that's all. That's not "wrongdoing". That's doing what every responsible community leader should do: encourage his constituency to make themselves heard through the correct channel.

The only malfeasance here is that other alliance leaders didn't do the same.


Oh wait no, I forgot: if a goon does it, it's evil by definition Roll


Ding ding! We've a winner here!

I'm not generally supportive of goon behavior...they're a PITA. This particular instance though, it's ridiculous to be pissed at a leader for leading.
Kismeteer
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2012-01-11 17:12:36 UTC
Ispai Ponue wrote:

I'm not generally supportive of goon behavior...they're a PITA. This particular instance though, it's ridiculous to be pissed at a leader for leading.


Yeah I'm not 'the' leader of goons, just someone who wants CCP to hear what people think of their game. Mainly since it can only get better. See also: Today's dev blog http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3365 Mittens broadcast on that because we want her to make it even better, if we can.

An informed audience is an engaged audience.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#66 - 2012-01-11 17:19:21 UTC
you gotta admire how effective we've been at terrorizing eve when "hey guys fill out this ccp survey" gets taken as an evil goonie plot

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#67 - 2012-01-11 17:55:35 UTC
Typherian wrote:
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
It takes one brave newbcorp forum alt to come in to the lion's den of Eve General Discussion and start a thread bashing Goons.


Hey guys!!!
Look its another goon PET



I hope I am not the only person here that finds this post ironic.


If you are referring to the fact that the person saying it is in an actual renter alliance, then yes. I found it quite the hoot.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#68 - 2012-01-11 18:03:24 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
you gotta admire how effective we've been at terrorizing eve when "hey guys fill out this ccp survey" gets taken as an evil goonie plot


Given that mittens get called a terrorist for asking people to, you know, log in, a goon asking other goons to fill in a survey is Bilderberg level stuff.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-01-11 19:50:28 UTC
Kismeteer wrote:
Ispai Ponue wrote:

I'm not generally supportive of goon behavior...they're a PITA. This particular instance though, it's ridiculous to be pissed at a leader for leading.


Yeah I'm not 'the' leader of goons, just someone who wants CCP to hear what people think of their game. Mainly since it can only get better. See also: Today's dev blog http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3365 Mittens broadcast on that because we want her to make it even better, if we can.

An informed audience is an engaged audience.


That's still an awesome devblog right there.
Oggat
The Adam's Family
#70 - 2012-01-11 19:58:25 UTC
Goonswarm disbanded years ago. What you see before you is an abomination of desolation

Amarr Scripture 11:31 "And forces shall stand on his part, and they shall profane the sanctuary, even the fortress, and shall take away the continual burnt-offering, and they shall set up the abomination that maketh desolate."

Hail the Empress in her wisdom
Stahlregen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-01-12 12:01:43 UTC
Oggat wrote:


Amarr Scripture 11:31 "And forces shall stand on his part, and they shall profane the sanctuary, even the fortress, and shall take away the continual burnt-offering, and they shall set up the abomination that maketh desolate."

Hail the Empress in her wisdom



what

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#72 - 2012-01-12 14:23:52 UTC
OP confirmed for Prencleeve Grothsmore alt.
Disdaine
#73 - 2012-01-12 14:32:33 UTC
If only I could be bothered spoofing my IP and spamming the survey.

How about making an in-game survey linked to accounts.

At least then it would be more expensive to metagame.
Valei Khurelem
#74 - 2012-01-12 14:43:44 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:
Oggat wrote:


Amarr Scripture 11:31 "And forces shall stand on his part, and they shall profane the sanctuary, even the fortress, and shall take away the continual burnt-offering, and they shall set up the abomination that maketh desolate."

Hail the Empress in her wisdom



what



HAIL HER HERETIC!

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-01-12 23:43:20 UTC
Forget goons, I want to see something done against botting. Goons just serve a purpose in the game, I have no beef with them myself.
"If."
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-01-13 00:02:00 UTC
I have your beef right here in my pants.

:unzip:

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-01-13 00:04:00 UTC
No, but seriously, I wouldn't have known about that survey if it hadn't been broadcast, and what I did harp on about in that survey was how I was mostly satisfied with crucible (even though I don't really see the point of the tier 3 BCs), but what I wanted more than anything else was a reiteration of the awful SOV mechanics into something much more granular and less asstastic.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jenshae Chiroptera
#78 - 2012-01-13 01:42:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
lady ping pong wrote:
ok so the survey is open to everyone you do not have to log in to use it and yes only thing you need is the link and its open to all

no login is needed
no toon name is needed
just click the link and finish the survey

not sure if anyone see a issue with this and the way this can effect our game.
the ping today was the start of the new season for nurf this its to hard for us goons thing.

why fight it you know you can't fight a minority determined to destroy you game.


There is no link between accounts and people filling out the survey.
There is no link between players and those filling out the survey.

Client side cookies and IP logs are easily circumvented.

Master of null sec slaves wrote:
> All members are to go to this site {http://URL} and fill out the questionnaire with the following answers
A) blah
B) blah
C) blah

It is so we can force CCP to implement XYZ and do PQR.

Once, you have filled that out follow the following steps to circumvent any measures that prevent us filling them out multiple times with
1) bleh
2) bleh
3) bleh

Cleaning my ship and kissing my thrusters has been scheduled for 20:00 server time this Saturday

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#79 - 2012-01-13 03:39:45 UTC
The "What do you think needs fixing" question on the survey was particularly insulting.

CCP's gotten detailed responses for YEARS to that question, then ignored those responses. So asking the question implies that they've misplaced their infamous backlog list.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Menrith Hadel
Boop Brigade
#80 - 2012-01-13 04:47:26 UTC
kenxi wrote:
Massive amount of goon alts detected.

Most of our tech income goes toward buying PLEXes for all of our forum alt accounts. The conquest of Branch should fund another 2-3 threads per day at best estimate.