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Would this be interesting for you?

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#21 - 2016-02-22 07:57:43 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I think the most interesting "Aliens" would be humanity from Earth, that would be frightening as hell, considering the tech they had when the EVE gate collapsed so many thousands of years ago, is still much much more powerful that what exists in EVE.


Considering that competition and selfishness lead to extinction, if Humanity still was alive on Earth in the New Eden timeframe they certainly would be a very different beast than we are now...
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2016-02-22 08:43:33 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I think the most interesting "Aliens" would be humanity from Earth, that would be frightening as hell, considering the tech they had when the EVE gate collapsed so many thousands of years ago, is still much much more powerful that what exists in EVE.


Considering that competition and selfishness lead to extinction, if Humanity still was alive on Earth in the New Eden timeframe they certainly would be a very different beast than we are now...


Why exactly? The same amount of time has passed for the same species and the humans in New Eden haven't changed all that much in the thousands of years since Earth was cut off. The only thing they will have is insane technological advancement compared to us, if they haven't killed each other already.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#23 - 2016-02-22 14:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
TigerXtrm wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I think the most interesting "Aliens" would be humanity from Earth, that would be frightening as hell, considering the tech they had when the EVE gate collapsed so many thousands of years ago, is still much much more powerful that what exists in EVE.


Considering that competition and selfishness lead to extinction, if Humanity still was alive on Earth in the New Eden timeframe they certainly would be a very different beast than we are now...


Why exactly? The same amount of time has passed for the same species and the humans in New Eden haven't changed all that much in the thousands of years since Earth was cut off. The only thing they will have is insane technological advancement compared to us, if they haven't killed each other already.


The human in New Eden were returned to a pre-space flight technological era, and in many cases, they where destroyed when their environments crumbled by technical failures. New Eden was set back thousands of years technologically and also socially.

So it's not just that Humanity on Earth continued their technological advancement, but they also should evolve in other ways. Even in the limited confines of New Eden, some races managed to evolve until extinction -where are the Talocans? And what's left of the Jovian now?

New Eden is slowly moving into transhumanism, with capsuleers spearheading that evolution. But maybe Earth moved in a different direction.

At one point, technological races with a biological foundation need to choose -do they become purely technological? Do they become purely biological? Do they expand to delay the transition? What if they run out of space to expand since the outwards pressure of population moves faster than interstellar travel?

Only one thing is certain. In a crisis, the line between life and death depends on how much effort is wasted being "the" winner compared to ensuring survival of the collective. Over and over again in history, we've seen in the small scale how intestine division destroyed societies under pressure. The fall of Tawantinsuyu against less than 20 Spanish soldiers is an extreme case of such destruction. But also the demise of the norse Greenlanders was facilitated by intestine division and lack of adaptation -norse were such successful sheep growers adn farmers that they dismissed fishing and thus managed to starve and die surrounded by some of the world's richest fishing waters. No to mention that the only thing they had to write about native Greenlanders was "they bleed for a long while"...
Ermias Kyner
Doomheim
#24 - 2016-02-22 14:37:45 UTC
The closest thing we have or need to an alien presence are sentient AIs and the remnants of earlier civilizations. Adding in other sentient species, while maybe interesting, would cheapen the Eve universe thematically.
Hibbe
Doomheim
#25 - 2016-02-22 15:08:44 UTC
befor CCP implements aliens they need to give us giants
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#26 - 2016-02-22 15:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Cristl wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
He was thinking about sentient beings.

Other humans dont suffice as aliens? We can be so different it almost looks like a joke that we try to find other beings in space.

And you don't think fedos or long-limbs are sentient, or are you confusing sentient and sapient?

Anyway, I don't want clichéd aliens in Eve.

Wikipedia wrote:
In science fiction, an alien, android, robot, hologram, or computer described as "sentient" is usually treated as a fully human character, with similar rights, qualities, and capabilities as any other character.


But its only Wiki, and sapience is used also to describe human level inteligence.

The most alien from human races are probably Drifters, and Talocans. We know so little about Drifters, and they are so original, that they are very alien to us. And we know even less about Talocans and from the bits of lore it seems they surpassed other races in their understanding of fundamental laws of physics, so they are alien in technological sense. Maybe also in some other areas. I have made some fanfiction about them, and in it they have minds more capable than Jove had. Also they used mix of innate capabilities and training of a mind to use it like a key for operation of interdimensional gates. They have done that because no other race was capable of doing that, so they were like a "king of the hill", and unbothered by "barbarians".
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