Warfare & Tactics

ISK is not always the driving factor. As with all PVP in eve, no matter what you feel, just say 'GF' (good fight) after the deed is done. And if it was particularly one sided you might want to throw in a 'nearly had you', too.

Beyond that, the next step is making yourself look just as vulnerable as the first time, but through fitting or friends be far more ready for them the next time.

Driving factor for targeting mining barges is probably the disparity of ISK loss imo. Its less about making ISK and more about "My catalyst(s) cost 1-5 mil each and your hulk is worth 300 mil.

It is also just about power / getting kill mails. There are some rare situations with miners where it is profitable (some guy has ore strip miners or something). Otherwise if gankers want profit they go for haulers.

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To be honest I would actually say they should make tech 2 mining barges somewhat cheaper. Just my conjecture though; otherwise I would say if gankers really bother you - run a procurer / skiff.

i can tell you code. do it mainly for the tears and tantrums yes they get stinking rich from frieghters but the miners tears are always forthcoming also FOR FUN

Because people are really stupid, and tend to assume they're perfectly safe in high sec.

he gets it right. the reasoning behind it is... fun

To OP : think of it as encouragement to get into PvP.

They shoot miners and autopiloting noobships just :because:. Don't look for a reason, there is none.

Getting CODEkkened is kind of your 'first trial', a defining moment for your EvE character. Do you rage? Code wins. Do you fkk mining and get your PvP on? Or perhaps you think "eyyy cheap kills- I can do that too!" sure, go ahead. You can factor in your losses (oh wait-- after insurance, you didn't even lose anything, am I right?) and keep on the industrial track.

Essentially, you learnt that Concord is there to punish, not protect, and are now presented with a choice.

Why they do it doesn't even matter - the question is what will you do?

The right way to play EVE, is to play it in a way that is fun for YOU. Gankers enjoy ganking, so they are playing EVE in a way that is right for them.

The answer is, as many commenters have implied, is that the best profit isn't measured in ISK.

Ganking miners makes me happy. Forcing miners, mining corps and even whole alliances to accept the Code and buy permits makes me the hap-happiest player in all Eve. Educating some highsec denizen that they are, despite their years of on-line gaming experience, not an awesome winner but are in fact, just another, slightly smarter, target rat and that all that ISK they are stuffing in their wallet will never make them respected.... well, as the commercial says... "priceless".

The very idea that its just a matter of grinding away a fortune in the ice fields, investing that money into pvp ships and, presto chango, the former ISK-grubber now becomes a fearsome master of combat is the common delusion of the entire highsec community. Well, it won't happen. They are sheep and will always BE sheep. Helping them realize this is my reward.

Being a wolf among sheep, now THAT is profitable. Forcing other players to bend to our will, that's where we get paid. When a miner explodes the reward is measured way beyond the cost of what was lost and what was gained in ISK. Another player defied us... and lost.

You cannot put a price on that.

Don't mine AFK and/or tank your ship. Problem solved.

Imagine you're in the quad at your university.

To the left, you see a pack of nerds playing with their calculators. To the right, you see the offensive linemen of the football team talking to each other.

Suicide gankers are the kids with the wallet chains who say "Fighting is what it's all about!!". Then, they quietly slip past the offensive linemen, kick the sh*t out of the nerds, and then post status updates on their Facebook accounts about how tough they are.

So, it's really not about ISK at all. It's about compensation for insecurity.

PvP is out there, all over the place. And the above posters are right; there's no such thing as "safe" in EVE. As soon as you undock, you consent to PvP.

Obviously people like the now-defunct CODE. could find all the PvP they could ever want in low/null space. So, it's not about them looking for PvP. It's simply nothing more than schoolyard bullying. But now that CODE. has stopped hobbling and gasping for air, and has finally died, suicide ganking is even more of a rarity than it was before.