Ships & Modules

Hi gents,
I recently upgraded my L4 mission boat from Gila to Rattlesnake.
the Gila was pretty awesome but needed too much micromanagement to my liking so I thought I'll move to rattlesnake and gain more tank, more gank and the ability to cause pain in longer ranges.

So I found some fit on the forums which had some good reviews and of course adjusted it according to skills, market prices etc.

This is it:


Overall damage wise it's awesome. for spider drones \ frigates the flight of 5 scouts are doing the trick and shred them in seconds.
Anything bigger I am using the heavy drones + RHML.
The LMJD + Sentry drones are meant for those moments when I take too much damage and need to leg it or when I need some distance closed.

At any rate just tried Damsel L4 (hence the resist profile of the modules) and I actually had to warp out, that fit didn't work well.
The rats died pretty fast but my ship took too much damage.
It might be the lack of passive shield regen or maybe the uselessness of the Large shield booster.

So I thought maybe to adjust the fit a bit.

Option 1: The cap potion addict
replace the LSB with XLSB and replace the TP\LMJD with cap booster + Shiled booster ampilfier.
Shouldn't be too expensive on the potions but will take space on cargo hold.

Option 2: Passive shield tanking.
Remove the LSB \ LMJD \ TP use 2 LSE and shield recharger and replace rigs for purgers\extenders (need to see which combination makes better passive recharge rate).
Downside is slower warp speed which will suck royally.

Option 3: LMJD sniper
will require more tinkering and training more heavily into cruise missiles.
Will use Cruise launchers instead of RHML \ use sentry drones ofc and call it a day.
But I really hate that kind of gameplay, I could have just take a t1 raven hull and save myself lot of money and training instead.

Can you give me pointers what is best in my case?
(high sec L4s, full clean of missions, not speed runs).

Why tech 1 rigs?

You dont tend to see shield recharger mods used in mid slots. pretty sure a missile guidance comp there would be better and a beta shield power relay replacing the missile enhancer. Thats just tinkering with your fit though. I'd rather focus on getting you some warp speed back on that snake simply for your quailty of life. What implants are you using?

Right so no ascendancies for you then until you get a jump clone. Are you sold on being a brawler fit?

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Damage control II

Large Micro Jump Drive
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermal Dissipation Field
pith x type X-l shield booster
Imperial navy heavy cap booster 800



'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Theres nothing wrong with the snake. Its a good hull. You can brawl with it if you want, don't have to sniper it, but it sounds like your skills might be a bit light which might be why your having some problems. I think the key thing you should do is look at how you play and how you enjoy playing then build your mission boat around that.

My boat was a rokh then a megathron, I simply dropped the mtu, then mjded out 100km in a random direction, then slow boated away from the rats shooting at them. At the end of it I warped back to my mtu. It was pretty basic stuff and ideal for a low skilled gunnery pilot. It would work for a low skilled cruise set up as well, but its a waste of a snake I guess.

Quick bit of google got me this sniper fit:

[Rattlesnake, L4 PvE, Tech II, LMJD, Missile Emphasis]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I

Ogre II x2
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x2
Vespa EC-600 x5

It would work if you wanted to try out the style with your snake. Otherwise I would suggest re focusing your training into shield and cap skills to beef up your brawling tank.

hahah that's what I thought.
mega does look sweet but I heard that hybrid guns tracking is horrible,
can you elaborate if you got into close moments where you had problem hitting target with your mega?

EDIT:
how do you shield tank with 4 mid slots?

Range tank. You only need to run an XL booster until you get out there. The rigs could be swapped out for warp speed and it would prob be fine.

Cos I think he was new and asking for help? He'd done some research himself, gone away and tried his ideas and encountered problems. Tried to solve said problems and then asked for advice? Great positive attitude and something we should all encourage. Hopefully I was a useful sounding board for him to bounce ideas off and hes happily killing npcs as we speak.