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Arrendis
TK Corp
#21 - 2016-02-12 18:36:38 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Don't forget to vote in the coming election!


I'd love to, if there was any point. Nullsec voting blocks determine the CSM, as always.


I am fairly sure the blocs encourage that belief. It can become a self fulfilling prophecy.

But as Steve said, above . . . the proof is not really there. Sugar holds the permanent seat right now and I would lay real isk on the bet Steve will next term. Cand the blocs elect some reps? yup. Can they control the council?

bwa ha ha ha haaaaaaaa

um, I mean . . . .nope

m


While I applaud the sentiment, you're not going to get anywhere w/Mizhara, I'm afraid.
Glasgow Dunlop
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-02-12 18:43:51 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Dabigredboat wrote:
Man I love CCP Guard, but I am sad to see Falcon go :(.


We're still around of course P

I'll still be keeping a keen eye on the CSM, but right now I'm super mega busy with work across quite a few different projects.

Things are in good hands with Guard and Logibro, even if the latter is a ginger Blink



So the CSM is now in a Top and Bottom sandwich Lol





you get it eventually Cool

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Lelira Cirim
Doomheim
#23 - 2016-02-12 19:43:08 UTC
The CSM just got 1000% more *woop*! Big smile

I would like to announce my CSM candidacy, which is really just a selfish ploy to Skype with CCP Guard all the time. Bear

Do not actively tank my patience.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#24 - 2016-02-12 20:26:53 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Don't forget to vote in the coming election!


I'd love to, if there was any point. Nullsec voting blocks determine the CSM, as always.


I am fairly sure the blocs encourage that belief. It can become a self fulfilling prophecy.

But as Steve said, above . . . the proof is not really there. Sugar holds the permanent seat right now and I would lay real isk on the bet Steve will next term. Cand the blocs elect some reps? yup. Can they control the council?

bwa ha ha ha haaaaaaaa

um, I mean . . . .nope

m


The blocs rpobably would if there was any need to bother. People tinfoil themselves out of relevence quite well all by themselves.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#25 - 2016-02-12 21:42:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Esnaelc Sin'led
That's a good thing that _ at last _ CCP tries, by many ways till a year and a half now, to minimise blocs influence in game and in CSM.

The game can now goes on his progressive path shutting down conservatism and reluctance for its most glorious future.

Did i say politic ?
Andy Koraka
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2016-02-12 23:19:44 UTC
Are you still allowed to answer "Yes" to all of our questions?
Maria Kishunuba
Doomheim
#27 - 2016-02-12 23:24:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Maria Kishunuba
CCP Guard wrote:
Don't forget to vote in the coming election!

Can I vote blank this year? Would love to not skew the poll with my votes just to get the trinkets..

Or even better, have the option to vote against the CSM entirely, not that I expect you to shut it down should that option win, but more to give us the option of receiving your trinkets while still making the conscious choice to not vote for a system we might not like or believe in.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2016-02-13 00:11:48 UTC
At least you believe in trinkets.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2016-02-13 01:16:20 UTC
Maria Kishunuba wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Don't forget to vote in the coming election!

Can I vote blank this year? Would love to not skew the poll with my votes just to get the trinkets..

Or even better, have the option to vote against the CSM entirely, not that I expect you to shut it down should that option win, but more to give us the option of receiving your trinkets while still making the conscious choice to not vote for a system we might not like or believe in.



As a fallback option, you could also check out the candidates who are running on the off chance that at least one of them doesn't offend your sensibilities.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Kyle Aparthos
Apotheosis.
#30 - 2016-02-13 01:38:47 UTC
Neat! I like both of those people.

Opinionated analyst, CSM XI candidate

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Xavier Azabu
Half Empty
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#31 - 2016-02-13 17:06:42 UTC
Wow, extra reason to hope that I make it in. Both very pleasant people from what I've seen.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#32 - 2016-02-14 19:31:45 UTC
Maria Kishunuba wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Don't forget to vote in the coming election!

Can I vote blank this year? Would love to not skew the poll with my votes just to get the trinkets..

Or even better, have the option to vote against the CSM entirely, not that I expect you to shut it down should that option win, but more to give us the option of receiving your trinkets while still making the conscious choice to not vote for a system we might not like or believe in.
I have wanted a way to abolish the CSM or vote against candidates for years.

How I would have loved to vote against Mittens before his melt down.

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2016-02-15 14:11:31 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Maria Kishunuba wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Don't forget to vote in the coming election!

Can I vote blank this year? Would love to not skew the poll with my votes just to get the trinkets..

Or even better, have the option to vote against the CSM entirely, not that I expect you to shut it down should that option win, but more to give us the option of receiving your trinkets while still making the conscious choice to not vote for a system we might not like or believe in.
I have wanted a way to abolish the CSM or vote against candidates for years.

How I would have loved to vote against Mittens before his melt down.

Voting against candidates is usually achieved by voting for candidates other than the ones you hate.

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2016-02-17 20:09:34 UTC
I wish I could say "good luck", because both of you are good people and good devs. But the CSM idea is fundamentally broken:
players want to win, so whatever feedback they give serves only one purpose, to facilitate changes that helps them win and make others lose. And of course they'll keep leaking because early information means fast adaptation (and trillions on the market).

While engaging with a limited selection of players on the forum to decrease the noise-signal ratio would be good, the CSM cannot be salvaged. Especially after the Document of Shame where they united in their will to remove wars and rat forever in safety - and CCP accepted their feedback.

I will keep boycotting the CSM elections and call everyone listening to me to do the same.

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