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big ode to sisi in vip mode, can we know when will be back? so we can build erebus stacks xD

What about disabling seeding of extractors on sisi? Its already live on TQ and is certainly being tested, is it necessary or desired to have these on Singularity?

Yeah sure, spend a ridiculous amount of ISK on TQ to buy extractors for about 300m to 400m each, throw how ever many of them into a Bestower (Frankly any ship since they're 0.1m3) and use /copyships which has a 24 hour cooldown.

Although it sounds plausible, it's inefficient.

This. Now since I don't want to seem like a spammer I'll add my own insight as to why I think this is a good or bad idea.

First and foremost, the injectors aren't seeded because you'll have that one guy that'll buy all 99,999,999 of them and use them all on his character then buy the rest so he can be king of EVE. Boys being boys.

Secondly, if you want to test this efficiently, give everyone 1,000 or so skill injectors so they get that set of SP, no more, extractors can be used but injectors can't be sold on the market or traded to prevent abuse but can be used by the pilot that owns them, this would balance it out

Thirdly a 48 hour window is good, it's a nice round number, gives people plenty of time to "test" (Quoted because no testing will take place at all) the new changes and explore other additional content they haven't seen before, the re-mirroring would clear all the mess of abandoned ships, drones, bookmarks and any other junk that isn't needed. A clean slate if you will.

So in short. "This".

The 14 day cooldown on copyskills if you used an extractor on a character is a perfectly reasonable compromise. Nothing needs to be changed with regards to extractors or injectors in their current form on the test server. Any extra restrictions added to them could compromise their use on TQ should a bug with them appear.

Extractors are as easy as getting a stack of PLEX for 100 ISK and converting to AUR. Injectors you'll just have to sort on your own. As far as MTs are concerned the 2m SP is a perfectly acceptable reward for those who don't want to use or can't use injectors. Giving of injectors to people for attending mass tests will just lead to people bringing large numbers of accounts, feeding all injectors to one character and the issue CCP wants to avoid just returns.

why does this even bother you? its a test server, does it really matter if people do this to try different things?

There has always been a group of Sisi regulars that would abuse this so bad that it would become common knowledge that you also need to follow this process to get a good result on your testing.

They want realistic testing off all skill levels and capabilities.

If they seed, all tourney ships, all supers, all officer mods, and skill injectors, the only testing that will be done is; Tourney ships, supers and nearly maxed skills.

This is known because of various occurrences in the past such as Dominion testing and Armageddon Days.

That should not be the norm for the test server, and saying that good testing results in such cases is either completely naïve or out of self-interest.

basically, been there done that, it doesn't work.

He does have a clue, and that's from experience.. not pulling **** out of no where like you are.

He's right; If supers and max skills were seeded, all that would be 'tested' are supers.
Why? Because It's new. People weren't able to do it before, they'll flood to it to try it out; but then they'll see the power in it, they won't let go until a remirror where it doesn't occur again.

This has happened a couple of times in the past 5 years.



However, from personal opinion- I think beacons should be strategically placed with names of the main Server rules, and advertisement that PV is the sub-cap only system.

And seed max skills only.

Wow...a whole 5 years?

CCP doesn't give two $hit$ about what we think, get used to it.

If they didn't give two craps about what we thought, every Super, AT ships and Officer/Faction module would be seeded.